A Plan To Have Humans Give Birth To Dolphins And Then Eat Them

Is this what will give your life meaning? In his project I Wanna Deliver A Dolphin, designer Ai Hasegawa envisions solving food shortages, the endangered species crisis, and our urge to reproduce by having us give birth to dolphins via synthetic placentas…and then consume their meat.

The struggle to raise a child in decent conditions is becoming harder due to gross overpopulation and an increasingly strained global environment. Would a woman consider incubating and giving birth to an endangered species such as a shark, tuna or dolphin?

This project imagines a point in the future, where humans will help this species by the advanced technology of synthetic biology. A ‘dolp-human placenta’ that allows a human female to deliver a dolphin is created, and thus humans can become a surrogate mother to endangered species. Furthermore, gourmets would be able to enjoy the luxury of eating a rare animal: an animal made by their own body.

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  • Ted Heistman

    Fucking Japanese People. I guess its good to know at least one advanced Western nation is more culturally bankrupt than the US.

    • Ted Heistman

      So yeah that may be slightly stereotyping of me but before you downvote me ask yourself if when you read this you if you said to yourself “Fucking Japanese people are weird”

      • Ted Heistman

        Liar! You know you thought it! Lol!

      • Rhoid Rager

        No. Some Japanese people are weird. Some American people are weird.

        • Ted Heistman

          True but there is a certain kind of weird that Japanese have cornered the market on and this art piece is an example of it. Just so you know I am a fan if weird shit.

          • oneironauticus

            Yeah, dude, that “certain kind of weird”? It’s called “shrooms”…

            “Prior to 2002, psilocybin mushrooms were widely available in Japan and were often sold in mail-order shops, online vendors and in head shops throughout Japan; according to Hideo Eno of Japan’s Health Ministry narcotics division, prior to 2002, “You can find them [psilocybin mushrooms] anywhere.”

          • Rhoid Rager

            The reason they were outlawed in 2002 was because of the World Cup. I was here then, but not into shrooms at that point. They, obviously, still grow wild here, but Cesium 137 has been detected on wild mushrooms collected around Mt. Fuji–close to my area–so I’ll only ever cultivate my own. Now, if I could just get a hold of some spores….

          • The Well Dressed Man
          • oneironauticus

            There are too many movies to see in one lifetime…but I will add that one to my list. Maybe I’ll see it in my 40′s.

          • The Well Dressed Man
          • oneironauticus

            “ファッションモンスタ!”

            I want a keytar…

          • Calypso_1

            I used to have an old Korg.
            traded it for one of these instead
            ….el mariachi no includio.

          • The Well Dressed Man

            Ya don’t say. I’ve got one of these. Let’s write songs en Espanol about our favorite disinfonauts.
            http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/9189Uqx3DRL._SL1500_.jpg

          • oneironauticus

            Yay! Can I sing? I think I have a pretty good ear for singing languages I can’t actually understand…

          • The Well Dressed Man

            mierda, estrella solitaria :)

          • oneironauticus

            I took French. I know I was *supposed to* take Spanish, but, you know, everyone was…

          • The Well Dressed Man

            es la antigua lengua de oeste. we know way more than we think we do.

          • Calypso_1

            como oeste americano o ‘El Oeste’?

          • The Well Dressed Man

            la tierra de Nuevo Espana

          • Calypso_1

            I often wish the Cherokee nation had been established such that american expansion into the colonial wild west of the georgia territory had not occurred. Thus leaving more time for continental cultures to embed in the florida & louisianna territories.

          • The Well Dressed Man

            It boggles the mind how rapidly the nations of north america in the 19th century were swept aside by manifest destiny. that’s kind of what i was getting at when we were talking about dixie a little while back. californians are taught that we’re some kind of exception to all that and only united-statsian in name. fact is we’re an end result of that westward sweep. dixie is as much a part of the cultural dna as mexico.

          • Calypso_1

            Hell, the confederacy, if it had won was planning on making an offer of membership to mexico.

          • The Well Dressed Man

            SuperTexas!

          • Calypso_1

            Are you familiar w/ David Byrne’s ‘wordless’ songwriting method?
            It’s one I often use as well.

          • oneironauticus

            No, I was not. I’m assuming you mean he sort of hums / vocalizes to write the song and then fits in the words later?

          • Calypso_1

            not just trying a melody. often the melody will stem from a proto-language that is more emotive based. you might look at it like automatic writing but with spoken language. you keep repeating sounds or record yourself singing these ‘non-words’ and they gradually form more and more language structure. It’s a great way to work with musical structure, language integration and the subconscious (how does it work?!).

          • oneironauticus

            “I got some groceries, some peanut butt-uh, to last a couple o’ days…but I, ain’t got no speakers, ain’t got no headphones, ain’t got no records to plaa-ay…
            Why stay in college? Why go to night school? Oh, I’ll be different this time! Can’t write a letter, can’t send no post-card…I ain’t got time for that noow!”

          • The Well Dressed Man

            I never understood True Stories until finding myself in the mysterious land where it was filmed

          • oneironauticus

            Oh…never seen that…add another to the list!

          • Calypso_1

            see that one before 40.

          • Calypso_1

            Buenas noches cuñado.

          • Calypso_1

            Que tengas esplendidas sueños.

          • echar

            He used/s cut-ups too.

          • Calypso_1

            That’s a beneficial exercise as well. I like using a voice recorder & capturing interesting phrases I see/hear in a day. Quite often they are interesting enough in sequence.

          • echar

            A person could could use a mind mapping program while watching, looking at, or listening to whatever. It could be a synesthesia like experience.

            http://download.cnet.com/Edraw-Mind-Map/3000-18509_4-197599.html

          • Calypso_1

            I often use mindmapping software.
            Are you talking about the an audience having a mindmap as part of a performance or the person doing the sequencing using it for additional associations? something else?

          • echar

            For sequencing…

            For example: If a person wanted to craft a song (or whatever piece of art) they could listen to the chaotic order of jazz. Then they could create a mind map with associations that are invoked through emotions.

            One could go further and created a logic mindmap in relation to the emotions that were invoked in the first exercise. Vice versa.

            I feel that binaural beats could be used to invoke some interesting results. It may be fun to utilize a light and sound entrainment device, such as the Proteus, in tandem with a dictaphone. The proteus is programmable along with the downloadable software.

            I wonder if the act of consciously reciting invoked themes, words, sounds, etc while in a hypnagogic state would bring one out of that state?

            I don’t know, but this is where my mind has led me on this.

            PS
            *Hypnagogic may or may not apply. I feel that trance could be more descriptive. Yet all states of conciousness could be used to create, and fun to experiment with.

          • Calypso_1

            ok i understand
            i did some interactive programming like that along time ago with Max software.
            I’m sure there has been a great deal of advancement with what is available.

          • echar

            If I made music, I think it would be fun to explore like such.

          • Calypso_1

            Why don’t you? It’s never to late to start.

          • echar

            Good question. Likely the resources, and the lack of user friendliness Vs. results of the free programs. I have dabbled a bit with synthesizer emulators, mixing programs, etc. I am a fan of augmenting sounds.

            At this time, I am unable to read notes, and have never played an instument. I am relatively confident that if given access to the right tools that I could make something at least listenable, and probably interesting.

            Perhaps I should put some energy into this.

          • Iuwus

            well my husband and i have made a facebook group for art co-op. if you wanted to you could join and we’d certainly try to offer help and encouragement. open invite for anybody else here interested really.

            https://www.facebook.com/groups/Creative.Arts.CoOp/

          • Calypso_1

            the level of ability you are starting from has been the path many have taken. The only prerequisite is the desire to be part of sound.

          • Cortacespedes

            Absolutely. Remember the immortal words of Jad Fair: “the only c(h)ord I know is the one that connects the guitar to the amp.”
            Not knowing the “guidelines” can lend a hand to uniqueness.

          • Iuwus

            agreed. sometimes though knowing some of the rules is handy if you wanted to play on certain associations commonly held between people (like harmonies). you can always break them later hehe.

          • echar

            If I could get my hands on a decent midi controller keyboard, I have a feeling I could do something I enjoy.

            I found Fruit Loops to be overwhelming.

          • Iuwus

            a midi controller is an awesome way to cut out the theory and utilise your intuition tbh. we use korg nano’s, i think they were £30-50, used them live and they’re just fine.

          • The Well Dressed Man

            This looks decent. I use the M-Audio 49 Keyrig, but it looks like that’s out of production.

            Looping programs keep things in the DJ world, go for workstation software if you want to create. Garageband is a decent place to start in the mac world, it’s the stripped down version of Logic, which is awesome.

            http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/alesis-q49-usb-midi-keyboard-controller

          • echar

            Thank you.

          • The Well Dressed Man

            just pretend you’re reading japanese written in romanji… vowels are about the same

          • oneironauticus

            Yup. There was a tri-lingual girl from Mexico in my Japanese class…she was already fluent, but needed a refresher course on writing. I was pretty jealous, but she was also super nice so I couldn’t hate her. :P

          • Calypso_1

            ah, the squeeze box would be better with my bajo sexto.
            Norteno!

          • The Well Dressed Man

            I’d love to write a narcoballad about daniel gill as some kind of brujo… too bad he’s such a teetotaler though.

          • Calypso_1

            oh fuck that is hillarious
            no we can work with that

          • The Well Dressed Man

            happen to use garageband or logic?

          • Calypso_1

            Both.

          • The Well Dressed Man

            excellent….

          • Calypso_1

            …you know I also have a quijada.
            Can we get matching suits?
            How about the curly toed boots.

          • The Well Dressed Man

            Those psychedelic vaquero curly boots? I’ve been looking for an excuse. We’ll need to do some sizuryp faded slowed down cumbia remixes. Bolo ties and dead scorpion belt buckles?
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htmvXfOG_Nw

          • Calypso_1

            : )
            Already have the matching dead scorpion bolo.

          • Calypso_1

            i think this may be direct evidence of contact w/ hyperdimensional machine elves.

          • The Well Dressed Man

            Tonight’s J-Psych derive concludes with the Katamari browser extension for chrome and firefox.

            http://kathack.com/

          • oneironauticus

            Kawaii desu!

          • oneironauticus

            If you really want to push the limits of challenging encounters to the Western ear…try Chinese opera, if you haven’t already (I bet you have).

          • Jin The Ninja

            all her videos are actually crazy rad.

          • Calypso_1

            I once had a very long reading list that was constantly being added to . I calculated, based on the upper bounds of my reading speed, the interval needed to complete this list.
            At this point either a new found enthusiasm for life-extension technology or a reevaluation of knowledge acquisition needs was required.

          • oneironauticus

            But what will I do if I die before I see/read/experience what would have been my favorite thing EVER!?

          • The Well Dressed Man

            Tokyo Nagaremono might just be that thing… so far nobody seems to love it as much as I do though

          • Calypso_1

            being attached to that desire you will be resume a form capable of experiencing it. Unless you are unfit for such experience. Then you would resume a form incapable of fulfillment of said desire but only its wanting.

          • oneironauticus

            How can one resume a form capable of experiencing everything? Are you telling me I will be reincarnated as a Turritopsis nutricula?

          • Calypso_1

            That or Teuthowenia pellucida if you must descend into the abyss.

          • The Well Dressed Man

            Wish I had time to actually read Ray Kurzweil instead of skimming. Now if I could just find some good optical character recognition software…

    • Andrew

      It’s cultural PTSD from Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Like what 9/11 is doing
      to the U.S. now. Wait 55 years and we’ll be as sick as them.

      • oneironauticus

        We’re already as sick as them. Anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded and hasn’t talked to an under-18 in a while. I found a printed-out short story at the library that a kid wrote about wanting to kill his girlfriend and eat her genitalia. 12-year-olds regularly make jokes about drugging and raping their classmates.

        Speaking of cannibalism, Germany has been just as sick for just as long as the Japanese (cultural PTSD from the Dresden firebombings? Or does Ted need a history lesson on Weimar-era Germany…children whoring themselves to businessmen on the subways, etc. LOL…no wonder they wanted to blame their cultural degradation on an outside group!)

        • InfvoCuernos

          I think you are correct about the US being as sick as they are, but we’re programed to hide our creepy fetishes, whereas the Japanese make them into gameshows.

          • oneironauticus

            Perhaps, but does that make them sicker, or just more honest? The only reason the U.S. hides our collective sickness is, as you say, programming, mainly stemming from religious upbringing.

            Then again, Japanese people (at least the handful I’ve personally met) are so polite it may serve to obfuscate some of the “sickness”, at least from a Western perspective. “How can someone so polite be serious about their school-girl-tentacle-monster-rape fantasies? Surely, it’s just a phase!”

            I think hiding sickness makes it more nefarious…not being honest about the shadow side and all that jazz. The statistics hold up: Japan has less crime, over all.

          • Rhoid Rager

            Less reported crime. Aggressions are channelled into more subtle forms of social interaction here–bullying and abuse of positions of power are rampant.

          • oneironauticus

            Living there, would you say there is less crime at least between strangers? I’m aware of the gropers on the subways, but are there less instances of armed robbery, snatching purses, break-ins, murder, etc?

          • Rhoid Rager

            Between strangers? Yes, definitely less. But Japan can be a very brutal society. The term ‘crime’ ought to be expanded to include victimization by social structures. It makes one reconsider the forms violence can take actually. When a child is bullied relentlessly everyday by her classmates and she commits suicide because of it, was there violence involved? I would say there was.

            North Americans can disconnect more easily from their social involvements. People turn off when they go home from work or school. Not so here. My kids’ teachers sometimes call us here at home at 8 or 830pm (from the school!) to follow up on something my kids need to bring to school the next day or some other issue. So, when social links through key hubs (such as a school or company) are as intense as that, all of the inner happenings (such as incidences of bullying, abuse of power, sexual harassment etc.) seem inescapable to the victims. Self-harm and warped psychologies result. Alcohol and tobacco abuse here are at pandemic proportions.

          • Ted Heistman

            I think white people are a little more sentimental about food and sex than the Japanese. We feel guity about eating meat and fucking around. They Japanese tend to intellectualize biological imperatives in kind of an abstract way. They are removed from it in a way; detached more. So by being moredetached and less caught up in it, they kind of think of this type of thing as more fun, like a luxury or a curiosity. For example Japanese might have weird kinky sex like once every two months and have no sex in between. Many Japanese are asexual also, like almost half the women.

          • oneironauticus

            You have never been to Japan and I highly doubt you even know anyone who is Japanese.

          • Ted Heistman

            I know everybody who is Japanese.

          • Rhoid Rager

            This is a nonsense theory, Ted. You don’t know what you are talking about here. Japanese food culture is highly intricate and subtle. There are more types of food in my prefecture alone than in the entire North American continent.

            As for sex, I doubt there is much intellectualization going on with sex. In fact, I would say you are projecting your own thinking there. While it’s true that asexuality is a growing trend, sexual energy is channelled into different outlets and becoming increasingly delinked from the family. Men pay for sex more than they get it for free here.

          • Ted Heistman

            There are a large number of people who don’t have sex in japan. Its a sizable chunk of the population. Its been written about at length. The sexual mores in Japan are different. They are ambivalent about sex, both seemingly conservative as well as permissive at the same time, the way people in the US are but ambivalent in a different way. Its a subject of curiosity for me. Also People in Asia have a different relationship with Food than Americans. They eat dogs, live prawns, poisonous fish, endangered species etc. with relish. That’s very different.

            I find Japanese more detached in how they consume entertainment. In Pride fights the audience was very subdued, often quiet, with their hands clasped behind their heads, sitting back and enjoying the mayhem. Americans tend to be on the edge of their seats caught up in the action empathizing with who they were rooting for and mimicking their body language.

            These are just some observations I have, don’t take it personally. I think the artist is intending to creat discussion about this. I think only a moron would think I am a cultural imperialist for the United States and American culture, Mom and Apple pie.

          • oneironauticus

            Now what do you have against moms and apple pie?

          • Rhoid Rager

            I think you’re projecting again. Japanese, in my experience, are not more detached. It appears this way to people who don’t understand Japanese culture. Hence the ridiculous stereotypes I am attempting to rectify here (most likely an impossible task, unless you spend time here). Japanese culture propels one to control their outbursts in public. Emotional expression is tempered in front of others, but this does not imply that there are any less emotions felt. Quite the contrary, actually–Japanese are very expressive in the accepted channels–poetry, literature and paintings, as, for instance, the more traditional outlets for emotions. To the initiated eye, these art forms reveal significant emotional content. North American outbursts of emotion seem childish to some Japanese.

          • Ted Heistman

            So once you go to to Japan you come away bereft of stereotypes? I have heard quite the opposite. OK. How is this: Nobody in Japan is any different than any where else because to imply otherwise is impolite. Every culture is exactly alike.

          • Jin The Ninja

            what kind of assholes visit a country, and on return, relate to one ted heistman vicious racial stereotypes?!

          • Ted Heistman

            Wow, non coherent English! You must be really pissed off!

            You know I think I should be more like you. How can I be a White Knight hipster? Tell me all the right things to say, above all I want your approval. I want to know all the latest culturally sensitive lingo. So how can I pretend that a Japanese man making art about a Japanese woman launching dolphins from her vagina is in no way related to some weirdness of Japanese culture? I need a new thought process. How can I become more intellectually dishonest in order to be self righteous?

          • Jin The Ninja

            legit question ted. what kind of people do that? nice people? or?

          • Jin The Ninja

            it’s actually ‘incoherent’ btw, and what exactly about my comment was incoherent?

          • Calypso_1

            perhaps he did mean non-coherent, as in your mode of communication does not require a know carrier phase demodulation?

          • Jin The Ninja

            my lightning fast taijutsu causes hand-symbol synchonization to be difficult, unless perfect timing of arc thrown star shaped-shuriken is achieved-as distraction- and in alignment with the exact time-space which i inhabit, which also as it happens is my domain as an archetypal trickster-magi. in that instance- a 360* circle of protection is required, utilising bagua’s yin-yang ghost hands (style of the spectre) a simple feint and strike can be used to compensate for size and strength. bypassing all defense and overcoming his offense.

          • oneironauticus

            If a French person were doing this project, you wouldn’t have batted an eyelash. (Not picking on the French, per se, but thinking of Orlan as an example…)

          • Rhoid Rager

            How’s this? No person in Japan is any different than any other person any where else because of their innate concerns and emotions, and to imply otherwise is incorrect. Every culture affects how we express these concerns and emotions.

        • Randys MarshmellowMan

          uhm. sounds like a group of 12 year olds in the early 80′s.

        • Andrew

          I hadn’t talked to an under-18 in a while, but I thought the meds got rid of my delusions.

        • Cortacespedes

          Hentai seiyoku was around long before the world wars and Great Britain has a fine tradition of child prostitution (rent boys). I tend to think that these “cultures” have only themselves to blame. No outside influences necessary.

          • Calypso_1

            culture: read – people

        • http://skadhiblog.wordpress.com/ skadhithjassisdottir

          Leave us kids alone you grumpy old fuck.
          Your age shows through your choice of 18 as though it means anything, people don’t feel or get treated as adult till they’re about 25.

          • oneironauticus

            I’m only 26, but, k, I’ll go buy a pair of mom jeans and say GTFO MY LAWN.

            P.S. Hilarious upvote, Ted. Aren’t you almost 50?

            EDIT: You missed my point entirely. I am only mentioning “under 18 year olds” FOR TED’S BENEFIT BECAUSE HE IS SUCH AN ANCIENT OLD MAN that he does not remember what young people are like because it’s been *such a long time* since he was one.

          • Sean

            26?
            I don’t believe it.
            You type like a 16 year old.
            Till further evidence is presented, I maintain that you’re 16…and not a very conscious 16 year old at that.
            Btw….your caps lock appears to be stuck. Might want to look into that. Good luck! ^_____^

          • oneironauticus

            It’s “’til”, as in the shortened form of “until”. “Btw” isn’t the sort of short-hand becoming of a 30 year old.

            You misunderstood my comment and chose to attack me, rather than Ted, when he’s the one who said:

            “Fucking Japanese People. I guess its good to know at least one advanced Western nation is more culturally bankrupt than the US.”

            You’re not a very conscious 30 year old; you’re not even conscious of the conversation on this board.

          • Sean

            Hilarious dude…keep typing. It’s thoroughly entertaining.

            Btw…if you’re going to be bold enough to correct someone on their spelling…it helps if you’re actually correct.

            “Til” is not a word. “Till” with 2 l’s is in fact the correct shorthand spelling of “until.” Look it up….something you ought to have done beforehand.

            So…because some guy named Ted also posted inane nonsense, you’re in the clear? Looks to me like you both think you can diagnose a hundred million people and a several thousand year old culture with ease. Can’t you see how silly that looks?

            “you’re not even conscious of the conversation on this board”

            Well…I read said “conversation” and then replied with my own thoughts. Not sure where you think I dropped the ball. But please, do tell. I’m sure you will anyway.

            I didn’t insult you for “being younger.” You’re the one who mentioned your age. I just find it odd when someone as old as 26 uses that as a sign of their maturity…and does so in ALL CAPS. It’s just…amusing.
            Besides, I didn’t even insult you. I just found your original comment pretty ludicrous and called out what I saw as drivel. If you’re indeed mature, take the criticism to bear and move on. Getting insulted over it is just a waste of time for us both.

            “My mockery of Ted’s age was relevant to my earlier points”
            Ahh.. Ok. I was under the impression that “mocking someone’s age” was nothing more than Ad Hominem. But, I guess if it’s “relevant to an earlier point” it ceases to be a fallacy. Got it.

            “(as I have previously stated, you have not been following the entire conversation)”
            And as I previously stated, I indeed did read the conversation. Believe it or not, people can(and do) read what you say and even then still disagree. Shocking, right?

            “and in defense of someone else claiming I was picking on the youth.”
            No…way. Someone else also called you out for saying ridiculous things about an entire demographic of people? I simply do not believe it. No…not you. You’re above that.

          • oneironauticus

            “”Til” is not a word. “Till” with 2 l’s is in fact the correct shorthand spelling of “until.”

            Both are correct. I stand corrected, but I will stick with the old school, “’til”, thank you very much.

            I didn’t read the rest of your reply because “neener, neener” :P

          • echar

            ’til

            :)

          • Sean

            Look….we got ourselves into a little online flame war.
            I stand guilty for letting myself get agitated.
            I guess I just didn’t agree with a few things you said and it irked me. Sorry if I came across rude. I’d like to think I’m pretty level-headed…but I’m not immune to online arguments…

            As for the 12 year old rape jokes…again, I just don’t agree. I don’t think there’s SO many 12 year olds making rape jokes that it warrants the slightest bit of concern. For one thing, I doubt it’s as common as you say. If you’re 26, I don’t imagine you hang with 12 year olds much. But, if you do…maybe them making rape jokes is merely a way to appear “cool” and edgy to their 26 year old friend. But, even if these jokes are as common as you report…I still don’t think it’s a big deal. Remember when you were 12? I do. I was an idiot till about 23(as far as I can tell). A 12 year old’s mind is full to the brim with “dirty jokes” and crazy ideas. I wouldn’t judge an entire nation’s moral future by a few jokes you once heard a 12 year old say.

            That, and, I don’t agree with your assessment that this is a “sick sad world.” I used to think that…but I realized I was merely focusing my attention 24/7 on the sick sad elements of life. It’s a kind of masochism…blaming the “sick” world for this and that. Personally, I think the world’s always had sick elements…and often the past was far FAR worse than it is now. I think, if anything, people are evolving consciously over time.

            Anyway….those are my thoughts. Again, sorry about the earlier war of words. You seem alright. I was just caught up in trying to be all witty and argumentative. I’m not perfect, but I try to notice and correct the times when I’ve acted like an ass. :)

          • oneironauticus

            Just because the world has always been sick and sad does not mean it is not still…

            “I wouldn’t judge an entire nation’s moral future by a few jokes you once heard a 12 year old say.”

            I do not think it is getting any *worse*; if anything, I’m am slightly irked that you still cannot see that I was arguing the *exact opposite* point.

            Thank you for your apology. I am sorry for any personal comments I may have made.

          • Rhoid Rager

            You’re quite a mean-spirited fuck, aren’t you?

          • oneironauticus
        • Sean

          Oh please…. :P

          Have you ever actually been to Japan? It’s far from a “sick” society. It’s utterly beautiful and unique. On one end it’s hyper-modern…almost alien-like in how tech-heavy it all is. On the other end, it’s deeply ancient and traditional. Those two modalities make for a very interesting culture…a culture I’ve fallen in love with. As an American born in the US, Japan is about as distant from my home culture that I could get…yet even then, there’s plenty to fall in love with and identify with. Sick, Japan is not.

          As for the kid who printed out a story about eating genitals in the library…conveniently leaving it for someone(in this case you) to find. Are you seriously going to extrapolate the moral fortitude of 370 million people based on (a somewhat funny) prank done by a kid? I’m 30 and about as affable and harmless as I imagine a person can get, yet as a kid, I did all sorts of pranks not unlike the one you mentioned. Hell, I probably did something very much like that. The only funny part is that it bothered you so much. That was clearly the intention of the kid that printed it out and left it to be found.

          Next you say, “12-year-olds regularly make jokes about drugging and raping their classmates.”
          Wow. What sort of 12 year-olds do you hang out with??
          You know how many times I’ve heard a 12 year old make a joke about drugging and raping someone? Zero times.
          In fact, I’m pretty sure I’ve never ONCE heard ANY human make a joke about drugging and raping another person.
          But maybe you hang out with sociopaths…who knows.

          Idk…I’m kinda just busting your balls a bit. Your post just seemed rather judgmental, hyperbolic, and well…just plain wrong.

          • oneironauticus

            MY FUCKING GOD, MAN. READ MY OTHER COMMENTS.

            I just spend every other comment saying, 1. YES, I have been to Japan, and 2. They really are not more or less sick than we are.

            I’m not phased by the story print-out–that’s why I DIDN’T FUCKING REPORT IT TO ANYONE. If it were something I was taking seriously, obviously I would have.

            And yes, kids really do make jokes about raping each other all the time. You really have no clue, man. They don’t talk to some adults the same way. Hate to break it to ya, but maybe you come off as “old” and not “cool”. *shrugs*

          • Calypso_1

            There are 12 year old rapists.

      • Ted Heistman

        I tend to think they have the opposite problem. Its an extemely organized and technologically advanced society, with barely any street crime. I think the Japanese imagination craves absurdity, chaos and violence and lurid sexual spectacle as an escape. From what I understand the daily workaday grind there is unbelievably oppressive.

        • Rhoid Rager

          Now that’s a bit closer to what’s going on here. In the big cities, at least, it’s a Puritan work ethic mixed with a stoic family life. Sex is not so much an appealing pasttime for young adults and married couples as it is a regulated ancillary industry to complement the hierarchically-organized primary industries.

      • Rhoid Rager

        People who don’t speak a word of Japanese, don’t live here and yet somehow think they can analyze the complexities of an entire culture amuse me.

        • oneironauticus

          True, and I’m likely just as guilty since I only spent a week and a few days there. That’s obviously not enough time to really understand a culture.

        • echar

          I am curious now. Are there any Japanese myths about women bearing dolphins? If so, what are the meanings?

          • Rhoid Rager

            Not that I am aware of. But Amaterasu Omikami–the goddess of the sun–was born from her father’s (Izanagi) left eye.

          • echar

            I found the Sankai after a quick google search. It may be linked, but not likely. I hold to my gut (offered in my first post in this thread).

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sankai

          • Rhoid Rager

            That was amusing. Thanks for the link. Lurid folklore is abundant here, for certain.

          • echar

            In my opinion, The East has the most interesting folklore and myths. Not that I am an expert on such.

          • Rhoid Rager

            When it’s not created out of fear of a sky god, folklore can be amazingly diverse and creative.

          • echar

            The sky-beard may likely be the largest source of folklore and myth in the West. Yet there are other sources. Which may lack some of the artistry one can see in finely crafted Chinese porcelain.

            Take for example Spring Heeled Jack, The Jersey Devil, the Minnesota Iceman (which was a hoax), The Wisconsin Werewolf, etc.

            Sadly or gladly, mappen the need for absolute proof has put a near nix on modern folklore and myths. We still have the movies, comics, and books to take it’s place. Yet even the feel of western tales is missing the atmosphere of the cousins to the East.

        • Ted Heistman

          Are you amused by everyone in the World analyzing the complexities of American culture ?

          What is your opinion on the section in Japanese book stores entitled “the question of the Japanese People”? or articles like this: http://www.japantoday.com/category/features/view/why-the-japanese-are-superior-people

          Is it fair game to figure out what is different about Japanese people/culture if its something Japanese people spend a lot of time thinking about?

          Is it really true that all cultural differences aren’t important because it might make somebody feel bad? Personally, man, I don’t claim to be an expert but I just find the culture interesting and not a bad way.

          • Rhoid Rager

            You are referring to Nihonjinron (Japanology for the Japanese). I think it’s a haughty nationalistic trend. It reinforces the reification trend I was speaking to you about in the other thread. In this case, it is recursively reinforcing–which is to say, the more they study what a ‘unique and homogenous’ culture they have, the more it becomes ‘unique’ and ‘homogenous’. The upper classes here (though not as prominent and ostentatious as in the US) benefit from these nationalistic myths. People I speak to here are utterly convinced of their inculcated unified cultural identity myth. This stems from the obsession with classifying inside against outside (contrasts are aesthetically important here–one specific art form that represents this is sumi-e [monochrome Indian ink painting]).

            But, recalling a Japanese anthropology course I took in uni, Japan has a rich diversity of cultures owing to its geography. The people of the mountains would be very different to the people of the coasts, and the people of the plains would be different from the people of the small islands. And on, and on. The numbers and mutual unintelligibility of the regional dialects here is a vestige of how cut off people were from each other before the modern era (I’d say mid-Edo Period–circa mid 1700s) began.

          • gustave courbet

            What does this story have to do with the Japanese as a people? They don’t hold a monopoly on bizarre ideas; those are a human universal. I wouldn’t have been any more surprised to hear such a thing coming from the US of A.

          • Ted Heistman

            Wow, you are so diplomatic. Good job. Brownie points with God.

          • Ted Heistman

            You know, I get suckered into these stupid conversations. I say some get level off the cuff thing and then all these douche bags try to outdo each other shaming me for not being as politically correct as they are. Really the problem is I kind of do care. I am probably vain or something. I don’t want to care but I do. Japan has a lot of really bizzare pop cultural shit. Its OK to acknowledge it unless you are a complete pussy who is afraid to say what you really think. The artist wouldn’t care. The only people who care are are white Knight douch bags. Posting all these fucking posts on here is a weakness of mine. Its a big waste of time.

          • oneironauticus

            No, Ted. You knew what you said was racist to begin with, which is why the second comment on this article was you trying to explain yourself.

            You’re the one being a douche bag for your complete inability to engage in a conversation about your viewpoints without resorting to insults. If you don’t want to be politically correct, no one is making you–BUT OTHER PEOPLE might tell you that what you say does not jive with their worldview. This isn’t your fucking diary. People can and will tell you when what you say is not what what they believe.

            You’re too immature to handle that without freaking the fuck out and claiming everyone is trying to force you into their point of view. The only reason the conversation gets to this point is YOUR initial reaction to anyone criticizing your point of view.

            If you could calmly, rationally explain why you believe your position is correct WITHOUT resorting to insults and paranoid accusations, then maybe shit wouldn’t get to a level where you feel so persecuted.

          • Andrew

            > Also, you’re right, I would be a pussy to not tell you exactly what I think–

            Are you insinuating I’m a pussy?

          • oneironauticus

            :O

            I can’t win.

          • oneironauticus

            By the way, it seems that you react this way because you genuinely believe that what people are saying to you are NOT their true beliefs. You think that we are saying “the Japanese are not weirder” *simply because* it is politically correct, or whatever.

            You’re wrong. Try to understand that. Other people HONESTLY do not think like you do.

            This might help.

          • Iuwus

            that’s why it’s the shadow side, ted. it’s all the parts nobody else wants to see. i think it’s ballsy of you to even try to wear it on the outside. but i wonder why you are surprised when other people cannot accept it. it’s an ugly mirror you’re holding up. ugly to them anyway.

          • Andrew

            Nobody’s perfect. At least you’re learning that caring is immoral.

          • Jin The Ninja

            actually the entire ‘east v. west’ paradigm has long been debunked. it was a racist (IT was racist, not saying YOU are racist) victorian idea meant to reinforce the OTHERNESS, the SEPERATENESS, the EXOTICNESS of the orient, in contrast to ‘civilised’ humane britain. it has nothing to do with political correctness; it is the reframing of a paradigm that included imperialism (cultural and otherwise) as a core value. you can acknowledge ‘difference,’ but there has always been blending, exchange and adaptation of ideas- you must also acknowledge that as well. the ‘east,’ japan does not exist in a hermetically sealed box, nor has it ever, even during isolationist periods.

          • Cortacespedes

            “In a sense the limitations of Orientalism are, as I said earlier, the limitations that follow upon disregarding, essentializing, denuding the humanity of another culture, people, or geographical region.”
            Edward W. Said

          • Jin The Ninja

            exactly. orientalism serves as a metaphor for how we view other cultures, other paradigms of knowledge at large.

            it strikes me rather funny, that m. heistman, cannot see the analogy that could be made to indigenous worldviews/ sources of knowledge, from which he often purports to be in touch with and draw from.

        • Andrew

          I find them more dismaying than amusing.

  • Ted Heistman

    Tentacle porn for overly refined (late decadent period) aesthetes

  • godozo

    Heard a version of this when I hung out with the Khrishnas – that women would become pregnant for the sole purpose of eating what came out nine months later. They depicted it as being depraved, I would now depict it as being so desperate for “real food” that you’d create your own “long pig,” that they’d come up with it as a way of raising dolphins/salmon/tuna implies how hard people go to avoid the obvious.

    Now where are those Japa beads I bought years ago…?

  • Rick Smith

    I heard Dolphin meat is delicious.
    It tastes just like KFC if done right.

  • Rick Smith

    I knew she’d be afraid to breastfeed her baby with those teeth.
    Baby really favors his dad.

  • Anarchy Pony

    DAFUQ?

  • Iuwus

    the hidden face. they dread to look upon. anoint that which was taken in blood with blood.
    endless endless endless endless adorations

    • erte4wt4etrg

      More give me more give me more….

  • echar

    This appears to be akin to the fresh air in a can idea. That being an absurd idea to draw attention to an issue. Cultural shock treatment, in loo of cultural PTSD (mentioned by Andrew in reaction to Ted’s comments).

    This recalls Soylent Green, or the more recent We Are What We Are movies.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6sn0P_Jwto

    • oneironauticus

      “in lieu of”

      :)

      • echar

        Thanks, fixed.

    • echar

      Another movie to add to this pile is The Road.

  • InfvoCuernos

    OK, so on the surface, it seems like some scientist trying to solve world food demands, but DOLPHINS?!?!? WTF? So really this just part of Japan’s cryptowar on cetaceans. Also, if you were really trying to grow food like this, you would want to use an animal with a short gestation period(11-12 months)-it would actually be quicker to do this with human babies, but when you think about that, the lack efficiency makes this about as good an idea as ethinol from corn.

    • Ted Heistman

      This guy has all kinds of sea creatures coming out of woman’s pussies. Check out the link. Its just tentacle porn packaged to the rich artsy crowd

  • Cortacespedes

    Dolphins?….nahhhh….Atlantic bluefin?…. yeeessssss!!!!

    Sushi bar/delivery room.

    Has potential!

    • Ted Heistman

      He already had that idea three years about. Some artists paint a door over and over again, he is obsessed with women popping sea creatures out their snatch.

      • Cortacespedes

        Sounds like a Led Zeppelin “legend” in reverse.

        • Ted Heistman

          hmm? I am not familiar with that song. I do know know that according to some legends however, I am partly descended from a sea creature named Merovech

          • Cortacespedes

            So your great, great, great…etc. grandfather was a fish?

            Beginnings of the Franks, no? Being related to Clovis I is pretty awesome tho.

            As for the Zep, it’s a legend not a song. And not a particularly good one either.

          • Ted Heistman

            I am descended from Merovech, Satan, Jesus Christ and Odin as well, unless of course European Aristocrats lied about their genealogy. I am with Davide Icke though in saying that can’t possibly be true!

          • Cortacespedes

            I had to reject all my genealogy. The brethren here are a little too down with it. False pride in my opinion. Best to forget about it.

            I’ll be the first of the last of my line.

          • Ted Heistman

            I reject my genealogy but not my ancestors. They talk to me.

          • Ted Heistman

            I know what you are saying though. Its not really pride in my case more like karma being worked out.

          • oneironauticus

            You can start working on that karma by getting over your genetic superiority complex.

            It’s okay to be proud of you ancestors; it’s not okay to be dishonest about who they were and pretend your ancestors were *never* every bit as sick as any other culture.

          • Ted Heistman

            Most of your problems stem from a lack of a sene of humor. Anyway I am half mongrel red neck half bonifide blue blood and raised partially by Black folks and East Indians, so I say whatever I want to say. I really don’t care if some emotionally overwrought art student doesn’t approve.

          • oneironauticus

            You care enough to respond. :)

          • Andrew

            I think he’s funny, sometimes. But then I’m not an example of morality.

          • oneironauticus

            Are you insinuating that I’m being self-righteous?

          • Andrew

            No.

          • oneironauticus

            Oh.

          • Calypso_1

            nudibranchs are defiantly self righteous

          • Andrew

            What if I believe my ancestors were sicker than other cultures’?

          • oneironauticus

            Well, you might have reason to…but I don’t ultimately think that “white guilt” is productive or even desirable for the over-all functioning of a multicultural society…

            1. guilt can be very easily exploited (isn’t white guilt arguably what got Obama elected?) and 2. it doesn’t undo the past; it’s ultimately a narcissistic exercise for white people to feel better about themselves…

            (No offense, of course. I struggle with it sometimes.)

          • Ted Heistman

            Fucking own it. But get this: they can’t be more evil than other cultures unless they were first superior and thus in a greater position of responsibility.

          • oneironauticus

            What the fuck kind of logic is that?

            Imagine a kindergarten classroom: one kid bullies all of the other kids (let’s assume, for sake of argument, that this is a normal-sized kid, but vicious)

            = that kid is “superior” and “in a greater position of responsibility”?

            You’re sick.

          • Ted Heistman

            No. I just talk over your head. Because you project all your own bullshit onto me.

          • oneironauticus

            You said what you said.

          • oneironauticus

            “Fucking own it.” Ted…you said what you said. You believe might makes right.

          • Andrew

            I’ll have to think about that.

          • Calypso_1

            Are you feeling the pull again?

          • Ted Heistman

            I like how you are always ready to jump on the pile, whenever I piss somebody off. I think says a lot about you.

          • Calypso_1

            1) it is a legitimate inquiry.
            2) you seem less aware of the continuing efforts I make to be amiable to you
            3) i have no interest in your piles.

          • Rhoid Rager

            I have enough piles for everyone. teehee.

          • Calypso_1

            Shark oil my friend.

          • Rhoid Rager

            I’ll keep an eye out for that.

          • Calypso_1

            It be in yer avatar.

          • echar

            Pull my finger.

          • Calypso_1

            You might not ask that if you knew the amount of investment or capacity i have in certain dislocations.

          • echar

            I trust you, or rather your fear of the repercussions of the legal system. If you insist on dislocating my finger, and refuse the repercussions of the law; then it is a fight to the death.

            Get Cool

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkdP02HKQGc

          • Andrew

            Would you differentiate what you mean by genealogy vs. ancestors?

          • Ted Heistman

            Geneology is mostly a bullshit story. Ancestors are real.

          • Cortacespedes

            I reject my ancestors as well as the insipid genealogy. Fuck ‘em.

            I can’t imagine speaking with them, when I can’t even make it five minutes into a conversation with my own mother.

            They wouldn’t dare anyway. I have a sledgehammer and I know where they live. The “obelisk of the patriarch” is safe, so long as I am unencumbered by the “gravity” of their histories.

            Self-invention is the mother of my “reality”.

          • oneironauticus

            The members of Led Zeppelin fucked some lady with a dead shark.

          • Cortacespedes

            Oh damn. And here I was trying to find a way to phrase it delicately.

          • oneironauticus

            *shrugs* :D

            /blunt soul trauma

          • Cortacespedes

            Thanks for the LOL!

  • THE DEVILS ONLY SON

    This world is fucked.

  • Texxtyn

    horrible, women are not food replicators for starters and dolphins are spiritual beings on top of that. This is ridiculous of course but also disgusting.

  • Bluebird_of_Fastidiousness

    When you think of it; it really is a Modest Proposal.

  • Adam’s Shadow

    Soylent blue is cetacean!!!!!!

  • emperorreagan

    Is this related to the sledge hammer article? Because there is no problem I cannot solve with my sledge hammer.

  • erte4wt4etrg

    Our whole species is PTSD

  • C LeBlanc

    WTF! This is Sick! Ever Hear of Birth Control!

    • oneironauticus

      I…don’t…whaa??….I don’t think you understand what is going on here.

      What on earth does “birth control” have to do with this article? Can you actually read?

      • C LeBlanc

        Yes I can read, The struggle to raise a child in decent conditions is becoming harder
        due to gross overpopulation and an increasingly strained global
        environment. So that Is why I said birth control! Whatever it is still disgusting

        • oneironauticus

          You did not appear to read the rest of the article after the initial sentence.

          • C LeBlanc

            So what! Its my opinion, not yours & who cares?

          • oneironauticus

            What is with you people? Do you honestly not understand that this is a public forum? You may say anything you want AND anyone may say what they want back.

          • C LeBlanc

            What is with you people?? Do you harass anyone that doesn’t live up to your standards? I guess if I misspelled a word, you would let me know about that too.

          • Andrew

            Yes, many of us harass anyone that doesn’t live up to our standards.

          • The Well Dressed Man

            Spelling seems to check out. The avatar is really something too.

  • oneironauticus

    Nothing changes. Did you catch the second half of my comment where I mention child prostitutes in pre-WWII Germany? Reminds me of Caligula, reminds me of Lady Bathory. And not just royalty; it was once common to draw and quarter people as a punishment.

    Maybe one day it will be seen as barbaric and freakish how we currently raise animals for meat…shit, one might even argue that this proposed plan is more humane than what we currently put meat animals through.

    It seems hardly anyone ever remembers to read their history (or simply remember their own childhood peers) before they go whining on about “morality these days” and/or comparisons to non-Western cultures.

    • Ted Heistman

      You really should consider lightening up

      • oneironauticus

        You should really consider getting outside of the U.S. every once in a while. On second thought, don’t; you’re embarrassing.

  • Andrew

    Reality is fucked.

  • Ted Heistman

    I don’t know. At least you are intelligent. I think I overestimate the level of intelligence I plan to encounter on here. Plus like I said I care too much what people think. For example my Sister’s mother in law looked at me like I was an idiot just now for buying a really good used laptop on e-bay instead of a brand new one at Walmart for the same price. She is obviously ignorant of many facts, yet it bothers me that this woman thinks I am an idiot. Like I said I think its vanity.

    • Calypso_1

      how much do you think ‘intelligent’ means: being graciously kind regardless of another’s demeanor or thoughts.

    • echar

      At times I experience you as over compensating by wearing an intelligent mask. (eg saying something that may appear intelligent, posing an an expert on everything). Not to say I view you as stupid, just that I view this common trait of yours as a limitation for you.

      I have learned when confronted by the universe, and or multiple people, that there may be some truth in that confrontation. Also when people say something, it’s when they care. Complacency is an act of evil.

      Something else, while we are on the topic of you. To will… To know… To keep silent. The last was about survival. Today it’s more about protecting others from being exposed to ideas that they may not be ready for, or they have no business knowing of.

      I bring this up, because when you talk about your ancestors. I experience you as at best being a poser. At worst… nuttier than a Pearson’s roll. I aware of talk about ancestors, and all sorts of esoteric topics. Yet I feel that one is general is more of a personal thing.

      There was a guy at this message board back in the day that claimed he kept a frog frozen in his freezer, and he would talk with his ancestors, who gave to him powers to control the weather and all sorts of unbelievable things. Honestly I am bit concerned bringing him up, because he basically internet stalked the owner of the message board for over ten years.

      I felt for the dude, because he just wouldn’t stop. And people finally digressed to making fun of the guy. He was clearly mentally ill. Not to say I think you are, but ummm… you look that way sometimes. Not that it’s bad to be mentally ill either. Just, I don’t know exactly.

      Also, I am highly flawed. I own that I can be a major jerk, immature, sick, depraved, stupid, and at times off kilter. Either way, fist bump. Oh and if you take meds, and you went off, you may want to go back on them. Because to me, you are coming off as majorly victim.

      • Ted Heistman

        fist bump declined. But thanks for making it really clear that its a mistake to get so heavily invested in the comments section here. toxic environment and no real positive benefit to hanging out here. Might still write but not really comment

    • Iuwus

      all i did was complete the triangle.

      “I clasp that to my breast
      which decapitates me,”
      - endless devotion

  • Angela Findlay

    Dirty Sick fuckers! I am fed up with these dolphin and Whale murdering bastards! what’s wrong with eating healthy non mercury laced food such as vegetables???

  • Ozzia

    WTF is wrong with you people? Did nobody have an English teacher worth a crap in High School? This is nothing more than a very amusing modernization of Jonathan Swift’s A Modest Proposal, It’s called satire, people. Nobody is actually going to carry a dolphin (or baby) for the only purpose of supper. But, those of you who are steeping in your sense of righteous indignation are in good company because the people in 1729 didn’t get it either until someone explained it to them. Thank god the Japanese figured out something for idiots to obsess over other than Miley Cyrus’ ass. http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html

  • oneironauticus

    Oh poo…I hate facebook. I have so far avoided an account, altogether…

    • Iuwus

      hmmm, maybe it’s worth considering moving it at some point. it’s only a week or two old so far. we made it pretty off the cuff, but it seems to be coming alive :D been anywhere that could be good?

  • oneironauticus

    Not really. *shrugs* Maybe if someone wanted to create a space…but I wouldn’t be the one equipped with the knowledge required for such things…

  • oneironauticus

    What is the difference between dolphin and/or whale and a cow?

    Why aren’t you so vicious about the “billion served” surrounding you daily? Hindus are just as disgusted by America’s cow consumption as you are about dolphins / whales.

    I’ve met a pet cow; they’re very sweet.

  • Gilgamesh

    That’s the most twisted thing I’ve ever read in my life!

  • http://twitter.com/#!/Stealingsugar stealingsugar

    These sick ideas stem from extreme sexual repression, and over-crowding.