A Pre-Conspiracy Theory

Obama Nobel Peace Prize 2009 Harry Wad2Veteran journalist Dave Lindorff asks “What if our premature Nobel Laureate President’s having a ’63-style Kennedy moment?” at Counterpunch:

I’m going to engage here in a thought experiment which may make some readers a little queasy, but bear with me.

It’s been half a century since the wrenching experience of having a charismatic young president cut down by bullets in what most Americans apparently still believe was a dark conspiracy by elements of the US government unhappy with the direction he was taking the country in international affairs.

Certainly powerful people like ex-CIA Director Allen Dulles and some of the nation’s top generals, not to mention executives of what prior President Dwight D. Eisenhower had labeled the military industrial complex were outraged that in his third year in office Kennedy was trying to dial back the Cold War, to reduce or even end the threat of actual nuclear war, and that he was even thinking of pulling US troops out of Vietnam and of reaching some accommodation with Fidel Castro’s Cuba.

Today we can read analyses like this that compellingly argue that the assassination of President Kennedy was orchestrated by those in the ruling elite who opposed such moves towards peace by a president who had campaigned for office as a hard-line cold warrior.

What then are we to make of recent actions by President Obama, who since his election has been a supporter of aggressive, even criminally aggressive militarism in Latin America, the Middle East and Africa, but who, in recent months has been taking steps that appear, at least on their face, to be aimed at tamping down American belligerence?
Take his surprising back-down from a threatened attack on Syria. That prospective war at one point was only two days from being launched, with US ships and planes in place surrounding Syria, all fueled, armed and awaiting orders from the commander in chief.

Hawks in the Pentagon, CIA and the President’s own National Security Council, and the Israeli government and its US lobby, the America Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) were pushing hard a US air attack on the government and the military of Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad, along with direct military support for the Islamic militants battling his regime. Then suddenly, in an address to the nation, the president did a volte-face and announced that he was backing a Russian peace initiative that called for an internationally supervised program to eliminate Syria’s chemical weapons stockpile. The Neocons in Washington erupted in fury that their latest war was aborted. Their rage was echoed by AIPAC and by Israel’s right-wing Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

This peace move was followed by another shocker: the temporary six-month nuclear agreement just negotiated between a US-led group of six nations (the five permanent members of the UN Security Council plus Germany), and Iran…

[continues at Counterpunch]

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  • Liam_McGonagle

    I think that the seanachaidhe or whatever our successor civilizations and cultures term their tradition bearers will not give a flying f*ck about anything any politician said or did during this time.

    It will be characterized as “The Creeping Darkness”, when every single institution failed so completely that the very notion of “leadership” became utterly incomprehensible and Nihilism overtook the hearts of the people. Nobody will bother to record the specific deeds of individual elites because they all amount to an utterly incoherent mélange of stupidity and laughable hubris.

    Whatever happens to this guy doesn’t matter. He’s not capable of changing anything. No one is.

    In fact, no one wants to. Society is exhausted by the empty, meaningless ceremony of order that provides no security or satisfaction, and longs in its heart for nothing so much as chaos. Horrible, horrible, bloody, painful chaos.

    • Andrew

      And maybe we disinfonauts, myself included, are projecting our own desire for the triumph of Death on to everybody else.

      • Liam_McGonagle

        I don’t think so.

        • Andrew

          Don’t get me wrong, you’re definitely right that there are others who want the world to end. I’m thinking of fundamentalist Christians and Muslims in particular. Maybe it’s more a case of knowing what we see from personal experience than pure projection.

          • Rhoid Rager

            The fundamentalist religious nuts are a cultural footnote in comparison to the ‘masters of the universe’ in control of the direction of finance and military trends. The real nihilism comes from that class of ‘people’ and is projected onto the underlings. The eschatology of the fundamentalists simply reflects this. Their simplistic fear-based monotheism will be long supplanted by a more encompassing pantheism or animism even before the present current steel and concrete infrastructure crumbles to dust. I’d give monotheism about 10 years to survive after the electric grid fails.

      • echar

        I seek life.

        • Andrew

          You have no dark side?

          • echar

            Is there any person alive who does not?

    • drlechter

      Are you blind, not to see the creeping darkness as a highly organized event. Read some chomsky, scahil, peter dale scott. The twentieth century makes no sense because it is the product of the deep state.
      Wealth and power have not let go the reigns, they have grasped them more tightly and the masses be damned.

    • heinrich6666

      I always thought it would be called “The Great Deprivation”.

  • Juan

    I found it an interesting question. If Barry “goes off script” and pisses off his warmongering puppet masters by actually making moves to mitigate perpetual war, will, “we as a nation,” be then faced with having to reconsider the official JFK narrative, viz the obvious conspiracy that has been so vehemently denied by TPTB?
    I think what would happen is, you’d just get the same conflicting narratives that we have now viz JFK, 9-11, etc, ad nauseum. But maybe not, maybe if “THEY” “did a JFK” on Barry, it might be just the catalyst to wake up enough of the herd to get some fo’ real change, instead if the usual corporate Cool Aid.
    And maybe, TPBT have also considered this, and so they don’t dare “do a JFK” on Barry for that very reason.
    Interesting times;)

  • heinrich6666

    Why, it’s almost like Counterpunch woke up and decided there were state-sponsored conspiracies against important figures…kind of funny for a leftist rag to be in denial about that sort of thing.

  • echar

    How do you know? You seem so certain, to speak as though you are one of those at the reins.

    • drlechter

      i am suggesting reading serious authors on the deep state, of which i mentioned just a few. Or if you want something a little less demanding then try Counter Inteligence a 5 part doc on vimeo by Scott Noble. it is still work, but understanding the twentieth century is not possible without it.

      Re certainty; I am just doing simple arithmatic, but who knows, maybe it’s just a happy coincedence or divine law or something that, now, while things seem to be falling appart globally, the rich are getting dramatically richer while the poor and midle classes are getting dramatically poorer

  • Calypso_1

    Perhaps we having a driving need to anthropomorphize the boundaries of our own mass cultural events, All complex systems have transition points where the properties of individual actors cease to influence the system outside of aggregate and emergent properties. These new properties often operate outside of the apparent nature of previous system dynamics.
    The event may indeed be highly organized but need not be driven by the workings of any human hand.

    • Liam_McGonagle

      Brilliantly articulated, sir!

      • Calypso_1

        Thank you. When at times the hidden hand of the influencing machine seems to drive the operators with wicked glee, I just conjure the black sun of our elder cousins & am reminded that many colonies of high-order are putrescent in nature.

    • Liam_McGonagle

      Parenthetically, there is a very useful grammatical construct in the Irish language that helps us overcome this anthropomorphizing trend: the Briathar Saor.

      It’s a transitive verb formation that is independent of person (hence the term ‘saor': free). It’s usually translated into English as the passive voice, or by attributing some vague, gender neutral agent (e.g, “one supposes . . .”).

      But that’s not technically correct. It’s really a recognition of the fact that the conventional attribution of an action to a clearly identifiable agent or agents.

      Sometimes synergistic dynamics drive events entirely beyond any human’s intentions to control.

      • Calypso_1

        So very many cognitive constructs, perhaps even at the roots of the primary challenges a culture faces, are reconstellated by the essence of new words.
        The amount of collective effort and experience for this birth; sometimes generations, an instant, never.

  • Calypso_1

    that is a good reference, and i no way disagree with you that this level of operation exists and i worthy of study.

  • Ted Heistman

    I think of Obama as the being very much like the Protagonist in the movie Avatar.

  • echar

    Are you certain I have not looked into this?

    To me, taking the hard stance that there are small groups of nefarious people directing the course of nigh everything could create blind spots. I have entertained the idea, but I do not know.

    I do thank you for your recommends, yet I will not take them as doctrine, just data.

  • echar
  • echar

    Thanks for directing me to this amazing series. I am fascinated by the topic. First one down.

    • drlechter

      Glad to hear, it is the best treatment
      of difficult subject that I have seen on video. But maybe It is just
      because I have read enough of the authors involved that I did not
      find it hard to follow.

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