Climate Change Deniers Backed by Secret Network of Billionaires

greedy lying coverThe Greedy Lying Bastards are being exposed for what they are by the liberal media, but will governments resist the financial clout of the “secret network of billionaires” described by Lindsay Abrams at Alternet, who herself is reporting on this article by Suzanne Goldenberg in The Guardian:

Conservative groups may have spent up to $1bn a year on the effort to deny science and oppose action on climate change, according to the first extensive study into the anatomy of the anti-climate effort.

The anti-climate effort has been largely underwritten by conservative billionaires, often working through secretive funding networks. They have displaced corporations as the prime supporters of 91 think tanks, advocacy groups and industry associations which have worked to block action on climate change. Such financial support has hardened conservative opposition to climate policy, ultimately dooming any chances of action from Congress to cut greenhouse gas emissions that are warming the planet, the study found.

“I call it the climate-change counter movement,” said the author of the study, Drexel University sociologist Robert Brulle. “It is not just a couple of rogue individuals doing this. This is a large-scale political effort.”

Brulle’s study, published on Friday in the journal Climatic Change, offers the most definitive exposure to date of the political and financial forcesblocking American action on climate change. Still, there are big gaps.

It was not always possible to separate funds designated strictly for climate-change work from overall budgets, Brulle said. “Since the majority of the organizations are multiple focus organizations, not all of this income was devoted to climate change activities.”

Some of the think tanks on Brulle’s list – such as the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) – said they had no institutional position on climate change and did not control the output of their scholars. In addition, Brulle acknowledged that he was unable to uncover the full extent of funding sources to the effort to oppose action on climate change. About three-quarters of the funds were routed through trusts or other mechanisms that assure anonymity to donors – a trend Brulle described as disturbing and a threat to democracy.

“This is how wealthy individuals or corporations translate their economic power into political and cultural power,” he said. “They have their profits and they hire people to write books that say climate change is not real. They hear people to go on TV and say climate change is not real. It ends up that people without economic power don’t have the same size voice as the people who have economic power, and so it ends up distorting democracy.

“That is the bottom line here. These are unaccountable organisations deciding what our politics should be. They put their thumbs on the scale … It is more one dollar one vote than one person one vote.”…

[continues in The Guardian]

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  • American Cannibal

    Great title

  • addalled

    The warmers are funded with billions of government dollars.

    • Andrew

      Evidence?

      • addalled

        Federal budget is the evidence. And of course the warmers also have plenty of private funding too. George Soros, etc. Follow the money. The warm-mongers have to keep the funding going.

        • Jin The Ninja

          cite anyone else but soros, and let’s see your cards.

          • addalled

            Why no Soros? Hmmmm…Well this is too easy. How about Al Gore? **mic drop**

          • Jin The Ninja

            funny, you listed two non-progressive capitalists who are invested in alt. energy as a trader is in the commodities market. also interesting you named the two most bandied about names by neo-con deniers. those two tools of industry are hardly progressive, much less pro-enviroment. haven’t you heard? bright green is a capitalist’s dream..erm…scam. it is not radical, nor is meant to be. it is meant to engender public support of big biz’s greenwashed propaganda. i.e. the status quo. they don’t really care either way, as long as money is to be made. so to say there is some conspiracy re: climate change, in order to disenfranchise you of your private property- is a bit ridiculous. this is what it comes down to, right?

          • addalled

            Does it make you feel ashamed that the warmers have to rely on donations from billionaires to keep their movement alive?

          • Jin The Ninja

            do you feel ashamed your entire argument derives from the propaganda funded by two specific billionaires/known domionists, fascists, racists and wannabe-oligarchs? just sayin’.

          • addalled

            The warming censors are now banning any dissenting opinion at the LA Times and Reddit. Now that is fascism.

          • Jin The Ninja

            reddit is hardly a bastion of progressive ideals. you must have been particularly inflammatory to be banned on a site that allows people to post their amateur porn pics and create threads about the study of race through skulls…

          • addalled

            It is an announced policy by Reddit and the LA Times that applies to any heresy that blasphemes the global warming movement.

          • Jin The Ninja

            citation please.

          • addalled

            You are incredibly uninformed if you are unaware of this. You definitely fit the liberal stereotypical “low-information” voter.

          • Jin The Ninja

            i’m not a liberal, nor a voter. try again.

            link me the pages on the LA times site and reddit, where it discusses the new respective editorial policies- simple! if you do how can i argue with you?

          • addalled

            Links get flagged as spam. But nice try. Are you unable to find it yourself? Have you tried?

          • Jin The Ninja

            links do not get flagged as spam.

            http://phys.org/news/2013-12-koch-brothers-reveals-funders-climate.html

            please link.

          • addalled

            I believe in free speech…as do most freedom-loving capitalists. I won’t flag your link as spam. But the warming idolatrers aren’t big fans of free speech. However, if you have trouble finding it and are willing to assert that my statement is false, then I will give you research assistance.

          • Jin The Ninja

            i’d really appreciate links to the reddit and LAtimes comment policy re: climate change. please and thank you.

          • addalled

            Search “reddit LA Times bans global warming”. You can’t miss it. If you still can’t find it put on your glasses.

          • Jin The Ninja

            one mod from the science forum banned global warming deniers from the science forum. not from reddit itself.
            the la times will no longer print letters to the editors from climate change deniers.
            i suppose all those corporate shills in the business section can still continue to entertain the idea.
            i’d still like you to post the links. thanks.

          • addalled

            Yes only the science forum is being censored. No biggie. But the cat forum is still wide open.

          • Jin The Ninja

            can you cite peer-reviewed sources that suggest climate change is not real?

            i’m still waiting on those links btw. and the new ones you’re implying exist.

          • addalled

            No…climate change is real. Mostly attributable to solar activity and normal climate cycles.

          • Andrew

            Normal climate cycles maybe, but the sun has been in a cooling trend for the past 30 to 40 years.

          • addalled

            And CO2 levels hit a record high yet temps have been stable since the mid-90’s. So likely our normal climate cycles have more impact that any of those two factors.

          • Andrew

            If CO2 levels have reached record highs, and temperatures have remained stable despite the sun’s cooling trend, that suggests CO2 has kept temperatures from dropping.

          • addalled

            No it doesn’t. If I have a penny and you have a penny but someone else has 98 cents, our two pennies don’t matter all that much.

          • Andrew

            Sure it does. I didn’t say proves, I said suggests.

            I don’t find your monetary metaphor fitting, let alone convincing.

          • addalled

            No it doesn’t. You are assuming that CO2 levels are a significant factor. But there are more likely hundreds or even thousands of factors. You prefer CO2 as the driving factor as it fits the anti-capitalism narrative. It fits your worldview and you are close-minded to anything that comes into conflict with that.

          • echar
          • addalled

            7000 x .000001 = 0.007

          • Andrew

            Yes it does. I’m assuming CO2 levels MAY BE a significant factor. That’s why I said suggests rather than proves. You’re the closed-minded one not willing to consider the possibility that CO2 is significant. For the record, I support the existence of private property, and believe deforestation is a much bigger cause of global warming than CO2.

          • Jin The Ninja

            cite me peer reviewed sources that suggest climate change is not caused in part by industrial civlisation. thanks.

          • addalled

            “in part”? Probably none. As you well know, 97% of scientists believe that man impacts climate. Whether that is 0.0000000001% or 100% is up for debate.

          • Jin The Ninja

            so if 97% of scientists believe climate change is caused by civilisation- why does your non-scientific paradigm deserve a voice on SCIENCE forum?

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            http://sacredgeometryinternational.com/climate-change-a-catastrophists-perspective you can find the peer reviewed data in the downloadable bibliography.

          • Jin The Ninja

            thanks for the link.

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            Thank you Jin. Please let me know what you think having checked it all out. Cheers.

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            Don’t forget cataclysmic events which can decimate entire civilizations. That would put a big damper on the whole alarmist paradigm.

          • Calypso_1

            Would that not in itself be just another alarmist paradigm?

          • Andrew

            Are you alleging that “warming idolaters” programmed Disqus’s spam algorithm?

          • addalled

            More likely a disinfo moderator. But it is possible that Disqus is flagging sites espousing heresy.

          • Jin The Ninja

            matt doesn’t moderate that way. please don’t blame mods on your failure to post links.

          • echar

            Duck Dynasty and Sarah Palin are that way. ——–>

            both can be found hanging out with the Westboro Baptists. Whom all are no strangers to abusing their freedom of speech. Something you have in common with them, amongst other attributes.

          • addalled

            Trolls that way
            <———–

          • echar

            Your arrow seems to have fallen and pointed away from your name.

          • addalled

            It is pointing to the left but I guess that went…
            ( •_•)
            ( •_•)>⌐■-■
            (⌐■_■)

            …over your head.

          • echar

            Over my head, like the structures at a Koch refinery?

          • addalled

            I’ll see your Koch and raise you a Soros.

          • echar

            Citations first please.

          • addalled

            Lighten up Francis.

          • echar

            Pony up Duke.

          • Andrew

            Wow. Calling him by the wrong name just convinced me that there is no climate change, and that it’s completely natural.

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            Don’t let the know nothing “skeptoids” get you down addalled. They’ve no patience for peer reviewed data that destroys their illusions. Yes of course I have those links, but you have to promise to actually read them and demonstrate you’ve actually understood them before I lift another digit.

          • echar

            I expect little more than false flags and paranoia out of you.

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            So you don’t want to see that peer reviewed paper I mentioned then? :P PS> False flags are real. This is required understanding for the modern human, hipsters beware the abyss is too deep for the shallow.

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            Still no interest? It’s just a link away…. sure you’re not a little worried that your beliefs may in fact be a result of clever branding?

          • Tuna Ghost

            Nobody does. He’s basically a joke around here. But then, we secretly work for the government/illuminati and have orders to quiet any dissent, so maybe we’re not the best judge.

          • echar

            Shhhh… G-line #3.23.b1

          • Jin The Ninja

            camron, i wouldn’t mind taking a look at those links. thanks.

          • http://www.sacredgeometryinternational.com/ Camron Wiltshire

            Finally someone with some courage.
            Thank you Jin.

            http://sacredgeometryinternational.com/climate-change-a-catastrophists-perspective

            You can download the bibliography and see numerous examples cited in the presentation which are peer reviewed and call into question the assumptions of the IPCC.

            @Echar and @Tuna your turn.

          • Jin The Ninja

            well camron, i appreciate the praise; however i don’t deserve it. i am simply curious to hear a counter argument.

          • Andrew

            Okay, the government, Soros, and Gore. Are those three spending more than the climate change denial machine? Please cite your figures.

          • addalled

            The warmers also get government donations. Which means they have to rely on compulsory tithes to support their movement. I certainly don’t want my tax dollars funding anti-capitalism extremists. Search for ”
            Who funds the Climate Alarmists?” by
            James Delingpole at the Telegraph.

          • Jin The Ninja

            neither the govt. soros or al gore are anti capitalist in ANY shape way or form. they are in fact, resolutely capitalist in every facet, ideology and machination. you see, deep green and bright green are on polar opposite ends of the capitalist spectrum. one is capitalist and corporate, the other is anti capitalist and pro environment. they have nothing to do with one another.

            do you live near unicorns and leprechauns?

          • addalled

            Your talking points = unicorns and leprechauns. But keep drinking that kool-aid.

          • Jin The Ninja

            so in your mind- anti-capitalism is both pro corporate and pro-gov’t? point me in the direction of those drugs/books- i’m seriously interested!

          • addalled

            Maybe in your mind it is. Anti-capitalism is anti-freedom. Plenty of books on that.

          • Jin The Ninja

            did you know anarchism / anti cap ideology is the pursuit of individual freedom through non-coercion? plenty of books written on actual paper on that too.

          • addalled

            Didn’t realize that non-coercion included bombs, trashing city parks, rape, etc. as was exhibited by the Occupy Wall Street crowd.

          • Jin The Ninja

            i’ve never heard about any ‘bombs.’ could you link me that also? thanks.

            i didn’t know one incident of interpersonal violence could be used to colour an entire social movement.
            if so, how then should we address the police- who incite state violence everyday.

            nor were OWS ‘anarchists.’ some were. most were not.

            a city park is nothing compared to the environmental devastation of the planet.

          • addalled

            Ahhh…I see. City parks don’t count, huh? And George Soros funding the warming movement…that doesn’t count either. It only matters when the other side does it. Is that it? And do a search for “occupy cleveland bomb” and you will be enlightened.

          • Jin The Ninja

            city parks ‘count.’ squating in a park is fixable. it is cleanable. polluting the earth and changing the biosphere will take thousands if not hundreds of thousands of years to rectify.

            nothing soros does informs my worldview. i am opposed to bright green as previously stated.

            please link. thank you.

          • addalled

            Search “occupy cleveland bomb”. Can’t miss it.

          • Jin The Ninja

            there was no bombing. only a plot. accusations of entrapment. bit too messy for my taste. i thought you freedom types were really into labeling ‘false flags.’

          • addalled

            Yes since they got caught it doesn’t count. And there was no “bombing” by the Weather Underground either…except for the one that accidentally went off. So that doesn’t count either.

          • Jin The Ninja

            oh i didn’t say it ‘didn’t count.’ i said there was a lot of talk of entrapment. don’t know what that is? google it.

          • Andrew

            Does funding matter when the climate deniers do it? Seems to me that it should either matter on both sides or not.

          • addalled

            Exactly. Follow the money.

          • Andrew

            The money? There are multiple money trails on both sides. So is the side getting the most money the one we should believe or disbelieve?

          • addalled

            Be skeptical of all claims.Verify. And be especially skeptical when one side seeks to “win” by silencing any dissent.

          • Andrew

            One rape and one bomb does not amount to coercion by an entire movement.

          • Andrew

            Delingpole seems to suffer from Moral Coherence.

            flay.jellybee.co.uk/2011/01/james-delingpole-and-science-of.html
            http://flay.jellybee.co.uk/2011/01/scepticism-versus-denialism-delingpole.html

          • Lookinfor Buford

            How about..
            The U.N.
            The MSM at large (including FOX).
            The E.U.
            100 Hollywood troglodites.
            Anyone engaging in Climate alarmism on the public stage is expending resources in the quest to establish a the far fetched theory of Global warming as fact through the use of propaganda, not science.

          • lunasea

            “100 Hollywood troglodites”

            I assume you meant “troglodytes”, but even then, most people in Hollywood do not live in caves…

          • llewellynh

            Gates

          • Jin The Ninja

            lol. okay. just naming billionaires can be a game too. not the one we were playing. but fun, i suppose?

    • Guest

      You mean scientists? At least you’re in the majority.

      http://disinfo.com/2013/12/majority-americans-say-trust-scientists/

      I don’t know or care if anthropogenic climate change is real or not. I do care about what’s best for human beings, which tends to be reduction of greenhouse gasses.

  • UncleB

    We live in a world where only the ruthless sociopaths survive for long . . .

  • SomeRandomDude

    Only a fool would argue against climate change, but, this whole carbon emissions thing seems like a fraud no matter what I read. And when the USA is so heavily attacked about it and China is 50 times more “foggier” than San Francisco Bay and is nowhere near as attacked, it seems like it is more of an attack on capitalism, especially when it’s anti-capitalists that are its main backers. Also, I thought we was at a solar maximum in the sun cycle or did I have it backwards?

    Personally I think both sides could be consider climate idiots because overall we honestly know so little how our Planet, Sun, Solar System, Galaxy, and Universe effects our climate. Could be the data to 100% prove carbon emission theory wrong is just something we are not measuring or the other way around.

    So it could be warm solar winds from outside our solar system, when is last time we constantly measured the temperature of space in all directions all the time? Could be where our Earth/Solar System bobbles up in down outside our Galaxy’s little protection belt thingy that the Mayan nut cases preached was going to dome us in 2012. So it could be heating of the Earth’s core, again do we have 100% accurate temperature measurements? So it could be an increase in gravitational pull from some outside force in or beyond our Solar System, unless again we have 100% measurements from all angles. So it could be a dying off of sea creatures and their decomposing bodies miles below the oceans are releasing a gas. So it could be a new species miles below the ocean creating the warming, like whatever them creatures was that started the oxygenation of Earth and caused a massive dye off due to the older life forms finding oxygen toxic. Could be them pesky little neutrinos that zoom through earth by the trillions a “second?” that are now coming in the quadrillions, maybe even in the reptilians “Oh that is not a number, my bad.” Could be according to religious people God, Satan, Allah, Muhammad, Yahweh, Darth Vader, Sauron, Zeus, one of them Hindu ones, Horus, Atlas is getting tired and no longer shielding solar rays, CO2, and/or whatever else they have out there. Could be we really don’t know what the hell we are talking about which is why there is so much flip flopping, misinformation, people looking like fools and saying stupid things, backtracking, and saying it is only cooler because the heat is currently “hiding” in the oceans, I guess it knew we was HOT on its tail!

    That is the problem with Warmmongers you can’t have an honest debate on what might really be affecting the climate.

    Instead it is CO2, CO2, CO2, CO2, TAX, TAX, TAX, TAX, PAY, PAY, PAY, PAY, MORE, MORE, MORE, MORE, PROFITS, PROFITS, PROFITS, PROFITS, DIE, DIE, DIE, DIE, KILL, KILL, KILL, KILL, and ends with HAHA, HAHA, HAHA, HAHA, HAHA.
    $$$$$$RICH BI***$$$$$$RICH BI***$$$$$$RICH BI***$$$$$$RICH BI***$$$$$$

    For the rest of us it is DON’T EXHALE, DON’T EXHALE, DON’T EXHALE, DON’T EXHALE, POORER, POORER, POORER, POORER, FAMINE, FAMINE, FAMINE, FAMINE, HEAT STROKE, HEAT STROKE, HEAT STROKE, HEAT STROKE, PLEASE STOP POL POT, PLEASE STOP POL POT, PLEASE STOP POL POT, PLEASE STOP POL POT, and finally WE’RE DYING, WE’RE DYING, WE’RE DYING, WE’RE DYING
    ______ALL DEAD______ALL DEAD______ALL DEAD______ALL DEAD______

    To end I rather be ram rodded by Satan’s posses than admit George Soros is on my side, Oh wait Georgie Boy is Satan never mind. Seriously has nobody actually read his interview with Time “I’m an extreme Liberal” Magazine? about him help loot during WWII and “how it was the most exciting time in his life” and the reason why was “absolute power.” And seriously look up your 25 richest people in America, see if they are on your side or not, compile the total billions for or against, and then get back to whining about what REAL Billions of dollars look like. Honestly the ONLY ones that is in top ten in America not on your side might be Sam Walton’s kids. So Gates, Buffet, Google guys, Zuckerpuke-I-Wish-He-Would-Catch-On-Fire-He-Deserves-It-For-Saying-No-One-Deserves-Privacy-And-Then-Complaing-About-And-Spending-Money-For-His-Privacy, and probably couple more like the Oracle Guy and maybe the Amazon Dude, either way they eat tens of billions for breakfast in the morning, preach CO2 tax/man-made Global Warming in the day, poop conservative tears in the evening, and dream about our extermination and our kids as the new baby back ribs at the $100 million a plate restaurant in their sleep. Seriously the whole conservative equal rich guys is getting old when just liberal/genocidal Gates and Buffet profits last year alone totals like $25-30 billions or like $23-28 billion more than the evil Koch brothers.

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