• American Cannibal

    old news

  • Anarchy Pony

    I think the more astute question is whether or not human being can experience true objectivity. Prolly not.

    • American Cannibal

      nope

    • Craig Bickford

      Not in our present state of low consciousness we can’t. For example, 99% of the world still believes that mans law is just and right, and that authority figures have a right to rule over them, and that the illusion we labor under-mainly that we elect them and allow them to take that right is a truth. There are objective truths but they have been beaten out of us by way of occult mind control by our priest classes (politicians, monarchy, religion, capital controllers etc.). I hate to say this, because I like the drift of his thesis, but this guy at Ted X seems to be drifting into the land of apologetics for his trade craft, and is ignoring allot of what goes on in news rooms today. You want to report things objectively about drone strikes or political corruption in your neck of the woods, good luck if it’s not in line with the paradigms of the owners and controllers of the paper you work at. Chomsky called this self editing I think, the ability people develop (or are trained into in my estimation) to self edit and go along to get along. There is nothing approaching even a hope for objectivity in that situation it would seem.

  • BuzzCoastin

    RAW called it reality tunnels
    ask people to describe reality
    you’ll get as many different responses
    equal to the number asked

    • Craig Bickford

      RAW also stated that we should not fall into the trap of solipsism, which this guy seems to be skating towards in an abstract fashion in the beginning of his talk.

  • mannyfurious

    Hunter S. Thompson qualified Gonzo journalism with this explanation 40 years ago, and I’m pretty sure he wasn’t the first.

    Still, it’s an opinion that could use some traction. I don’t hate Fox News because they’re not objective. I hate them because they’re wrong in destructive ways.

    • echar

      What’s worse is that they are wrong, destructive, and certain groups believe it.

    • Craig Bickford

      I don’t hate them either, because I understand FOX news as a whole is a political agenda, and allot of what they ‘report’ on isn’t news, but is OpEds and assertion based news commentary, both of which have nothing to do with reporting news and everything to do with propaganda and mind control.

  • misinformation

    According to Kevin Carson at the Center For A Stateless Society, the myth of objective journalism goes back to Lippmann – a good read, IMO: http://c4ss.org/content/13708

    And, an interview with him: http://www.corbettreport.com/interview-643-kevin-carson-on-objective-journalism/#comments

  • DoomedNY

    Watch Rashomon to start understanding this idea.

    • HCE

      Roshomon, and Citizen Kane. In fact, Kurosawa mentioned having been influenced by Citizen Kane, or at least inspired anyway, in his making Roshomon.

      I think F For Fake should be included as well.

  • gustave courbet

    The title of this piece was a bit misleading. I thought he was going to advocate solipsism, but he generally described our tenuous grasp on objective reality.

    • Craig Bickford

      He does seem to be skirting a solipsistic thought in the beginning, which is where I almost got a little worried. I’m still not convinced that he isn’t introducing a mild form of it in this work. I need to watch it again before I start accusing him of that though.

  • Qholloi

    Same goes for history

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