Did the CIA Rape Iraqi Children in Front of Their Parents?

Pic: Institute for Policy Studies (CC)

Pic: Institute for Policy Studies (CC)

Seeing as how questions about the CIA’s torture program(s) and what crimes they’re attempting to cover up are in the news again, it seems like a good time to pull an old Seymour Hersh quote out of the Memory Hole:

“Some of the worst things that happened that you don’t know about. OK? Videos. There are women there. Some of you may have read that they were passing letters out, communications out to their men. This is at [Abu Ghraib], which is about 30 miles from Baghdad — 30 kilometers, maybe, just 20 miles, I’m not sure whether it’s — anyway. The women were passing messages out saying please come and kill me because of what’s happened. And basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children, in cases that have been recorded, the boys were sodomized, with the cameras rolling, and the worst above all of them is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking. That your government has, and they’re in total terror it’s going to come out. It’s impossible to say to yourself, how did we get there, who are we, who are these people that sent us there.”

Information Clearing House: Seymour Hersh : The US government has videotapes of boys being sodomized at Abu Ghraib prison.

Just my little piece of the world: In 2004 Seymour Hersh Told a Story, But No One Listened

Infowars: Hersh: children raped at Abu Ghraib, Pentagon has videos

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  • Thurlow Weed

    Sounds legit. In 2004 the steady chorus of support the troops coming from every direction on radio, TV, and the internet put this accusation beyond what many corporate information peddlers were willing to risk acknowledging.

    • Jonas Planck

      Ah, so few permit themselves to remember that post-9/11 militant nationalism that would have made Hitler flush with envy. I often wondered what the REAL answer was to that question they answered with, “Because they hate freedom!” Hate freedom? What kind of bullshit is that? That lie wasn’t even meant to be believed. It was a challenge, a way of daring skeptics to confront the liars… at a time when the liars had made it very clear that they were suspending free speech and dissent indefinitely, and if you weren’t with them, you were the enemy. Apparently, the question that SHOULD have been asked but never was is “What kind of monstrous horrible shit do you have to DO to people to make them so obsessed with vengeance for it that they are willing, even EAGER, to kill themselves to get that revenge?” We have an answer to THAT question, and it ain’t religious fanaticism.
      These days, Fox News is a bad joke, the punchline to a dying world-view, but I have not forgotten that they once represented the propaganda wing of a palpable threat to the lives and liberty of every human on Earth. It’s comforting now, to see them impotently rage against the lack of respect they get, but there was a time when it looked like those mindless, bratty thugs and the psychotic war criminals they served were going to be protected as unassailable dignitaries, and to disagree with their blatantly obvious bullshit would be to risk imprisonment, torture, and death. I’m sure a big part of their current lamentation over the state of the World has to do with that nightmarish future never coming to pass. “Oh no, a black democrat is the president? Now I’ll NEVER be protected from criticism by a network of secret police instilling fear into my audience to keep them agreeing with me!” Times change, dictators evolve, propagandists learn to use more convincing lies than before… they went from being powerful players in a fascist takeover to being a niche market for Archie Bunkers on life support. They discovered they were just as disposable as the rest of us, and the Tea Party rose from that fertile soil of disappointment. They want that power back, and if we know what’s good for us, we’ll never let that happen again. No, our fascism must be hidden behind a cloak of altruistic intent, or the public simply won’t stand for it. The red team may have read Machiavelli’s the Prince, but the blue team UNDERSTOOD it. The cardinal rule is don’t get caught being evil. Not being evil? That isn’t an option for them, it would appear. Too many skeletons in the closet to turn back now.

      • Thurlow Weed

        Planck speed to you.

  • Reuben_the_Red

    The best thing about being a world power is never having to admit committing a war crime. Never.

  • Juan

    Evil fucking bastards.
    Karma is bitch, you evil fucks.

    • Damien Quinn

      Karma? Who’s going to take them to task, the government haven’t, the media hasn’t, the people of the US havn’t, are you hoping Vladamir Putin’s going to get them?

      • Jin The Ninja

        not to speak for Juan, but in strong contrast to popular notions of karma- it isn’t a synonym for justice or injustice, repercussions or divine retribution.

        • Damien Quinn

          Hey, perception is nine tenths of reality.

          • Jin The Ninja

            i’d say causality is 9/10ths of reality;)

          • Damien Quinn

            Wow, really, after all you’ve seen?

            Not to worry, I still respect you, nobodies perfect.

          • Jin The Ninja

            it was a tongue-in-cheek reference to buddhist phenomenology…
            it’s okay, not everybody can have my hilarious sense of humour.

          • Andrew

            And I’d say reality is one tenth of perception.

          • jendao

            go home you’re drunk

  • Damien Quinn

    Flying death robots killing civilians, spooks raping children in front of their mothers, kidnapping, torture, assassination, use of illegal weapons, asset stripping, military occupation and the installation of an utterly corrupt government. Iraq has a lot to be grateful for.

    • Juan

      The really fucked up thing, is that it is not just Iraq that is enjoying the many benefits on US democracy. These psycho bastards are essentially ass raping the entire fucking planet.
      They are all over Africa, Eastern Europe, Latin America, etc. So that means they are doing all the same shit they are doing in Iraq everywhere else they happen to be. It is what they do. It was they have always done.

      • Jin The Ninja

        no one said imperialism was easy.

        • Juan

          That’s right, all those poor brown women and children aren’t gonna brutalize themselves . . .

        • James

          This has little to do with imperialism. It is about violating already defeated people to wreck them for generations. Imperialism is about the theft of resources, US/Zionist wars are about nation wrecking.

          • Jin The Ninja

            there were resources to be captured, profits to be made in every war of the last century.

            when you can you fill a recently-plundered nation with military bases and
            force installed govt’s to sign multi generational treaties, you cede the sovereignty of nations over to the framework of empire.

          • Andrew

            > violating already defeated people to wreck them for generations

            Seems like an effective way to maintain power.

      • Anarchy Pony

        Not enough nooses on earth.

  • kowalityjesus

    “The women were passing messages out saying please come and kill me because of what’s happened.” That has to be the #1 saddest thing I have read in months.

    “…the boys were sodomized, with the cameras rolling, and the worst above all of them is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking” …actually, I feel like handing out flyers now.

  • Massoud Vaghefi

    Read the local news of the US, & UK and you see that the sickening crimes have become every day events. The devilish mentality’s have always been there and have been nurtured by sicker minds. So when they were put in charge of such situations as in Vietnam, Iraq, and so on they operate unchallenged as it has been revealed here. The French did their share in Algeria. The sad thing is the very same degenerated societies that produce these devils then have the guts to brand all these old more humanistic cultures as “barbarian”.

    • Damien Quinn

      Bullshit, both groups are violent, the only difference is direction of action.

      The “barbarian” cultures tend to be more violent in-group, they demand that everyone in their proximity conform to a single type set they identify as themselves, if anyone steps outside these norms, they are repressed violently.

      The “devilish” cultures tend to be more violent out-group, they demand that everyone in proximity to them be allowed variability and violently repress threats to this dynamic, generally from outside themselves.

  • Bobby

    The cartels did the same thing to the Mexican population in Mexico after nafta was passed, when entire regions worth of laborors were put out of work in northern Mexico. The entire region has been turned into a US government drug trafficking/terrorism/satanic hell zone, a majority of the people not involved in the cartel businesses have literally been murdered since then. Northern mexico is literally one of the best examples of cultural genocide sponsored by our complicit government in the world, right across the border of America. The CIA has long been in the cartel business, even before nafta, is likely the case. 2011 Jaurez, right by El Paso, was the most dangerous town in the world, by murder rate per population, and was in the top few for several years in a row. The difference is, its not a gang war, its the local population who’s not paid the cartel their $1000/week extortion to exist. This was all sponsored, and probably even trained, by elements in the US govt.

    • Bobby

      The reason I would say it is more successful than Iraq is because most people don’t even realize what our government has done south of the border,pre-gulf war. Its like Iraq was bigger, but our funding of the cartels was and continues to be mostly covert. Only the fast and furious scandal has shed any light into it, but our government likely plays a more intimate role than most people realize or even have time to get into, like me at the moment. Its a big ing though, and may e these snowden revelations or surprisingly Dianne Feinstein may shed some light into these issues at some point. I think Iraq is a bigger issue though, as well as some other similar issues to this domestically. It will be revealed in time, that is one thing we can count on more and more these days.

  • BuzzCoastin

    the interesting thing is
    there’s a question as to the level of CIA involvement
    not if they were involved
    shrug, watchya gonna do about drug smuggling alcoholic spooks
    nothing much it seems

  • Andrew

    Ever hear of ignorance?

    Ever hear of denial?

    Ever hear of minimization?

  • Apathesis

    So disgusting and vile. All of the people responsible should be fed through an industrial cheese grater.

  • AManCalledDa-da

    This is the turning point. No way they can stop Justice now.

    • Juan

      I wish you were correct. Sadly, I don’t think so.
      Most people still have no idea about any of this. I swear, most of them really believe all the pro-US corporate-state (fascist) propaganda they’ve been fed their entire lives. They are not capable of grasping anything that does not fit in with their indoctrination. All information that is contrary is conveniently dismissed as lies, misinformation and treason.
      “You know how dumb the average guy is? Well, by definition half of them are even dumber than that.”
      -J. R. Bob Dobbs
      Or, if you prefer, H. L. Menken. He rightly noted that “No one has ever gone broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”

      Most people here are functionally illiterate. That is, they can maybe read a newspaper headline and traffic signs, possibly a restaurant menu, as long there are not too many big foreign words. But beyond that, they really have zero active literacy and no critical thinking abilities.

      • Juan

        Duh, I wrote all that, then it realized you were being ironic.
        Oh well:)

        • Rhoid Rager

          S’ok if he’s not, too.

  • doctor_robot

    yay, america!!! r_r

  • Juan

    No I did not. But, I looked it up and remembered.
    This has also happened in the UK. Where you had high ranking members of the the gov being charged with all kinds of crimes against children.
    There were also hints of Satan worshiping and child sacrificing among those very same elites.
    Not surprising, when you consider what they are doing globally on a mass scale.
    Unfortunately, our planet is run by super Villians right now.

    • Damien Quinn

      It often seems to be, we keep putting them down and trying to stop it happening again………. but you take your eyes off them for a second and =BAM= satellite death ray in your volcano.

      • Juan

        That, and they are sending their goons to rape children in front of their mothers.

    • Woobniggurath

      Kind of forever, really. Just more superer now.

  • Defiant

    I know it’s in vogue to hate America and all…but without some actual evidence I just don’t believe this.

    • Andrew

      Hey, mcubik… See?

    • James

      So it is about fashion and not the criminal activities of Murder Inc? Who knew!

      • Woobniggurath

        According to Vigilant Citizen it’s in Vogue to hate America. Or rather Christianity, which is pretty much the same thing.

        • James

          After all the crap the US has been doing (illegal wars, looting, international kidnappings and assassinations, mass torture programs, false flag terrorism, heroin smuggling, nation wrecking, black listing foreign nationals, internet snooping, organised stalking campaigns) Vigilant Citizen says it’s in Vogue to hate America.

          This is evidence of the stupidity of Americans to first come up with this idea and then to repeat the suggestion as plausible. Who do you people think you are?

      • jendao

        What are you talking about? What is Murder Inc? Nothing you say makes sense.

    • Juan

      Of course you don’t. This is the greatest country in the world. It has never waged an unjust war, or committed any attrocities.
      These United States are blameless and chosen by god to rule, ahem, I mean lead the world.
      God bless America!

    • MediaMike

      Two books for you, Defiant.
      1. Thanks for the Memories
      2. Trans-formation of America

    • Thurlow Weed

      Nice hat.

  • jendao

    what if a bear raped a child? should it be put to death?

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