Former World Bank Senior Counsel Karen Hudes Says “Second Species” Controls Human Civilization

Are elongated-skull non-human creatures hiding amongst us? Via Collective-Evolution, about 21 minutes into an eyebrow-raising interview with Red Ice Radio, former senior World Bank lawyer Karen Hudes claims so:

“These countries are not monolithic, there are forces fighting the corruption and there are forces that have totally been co-opted…The group that’s behind the network of control are the Jesuits, and there are also some groups behind them. One of these groups are hominids, they’re not human beings. They are very smart, they are not creative, they are mathematical. They have elongated skulls, they may produce offspring in mating with female humans, but that offspring is not fertile. We live in a world of secret societies, and secrets, and the information that ought to be public is not public.”

40 Comments on "Former World Bank Senior Counsel Karen Hudes Says “Second Species” Controls Human Civilization"

  1. Spasmodius | Apr 2, 2014 at 10:38 am |

    What is it about hegemonic whistleblowers subsequently developing mental illnesses which on face value look to discredit their previous revelations? There appears to be a pattern here.

  2. Liam_McGonagle | Apr 2, 2014 at 10:48 am |

    I thought it was strange that a person with such a high profile position would be making this type of claim. In my personal experience it is unheard of for someone to achieve prominence within such a large organization without:

    a.) leaving a large publically accesible papertrail;

    b.) becoming acculturated (?’co-opted?) by bureaucracy to such a degree that charges of direct, personal malfeasance, of the type that she makes, become completely incomprehensible–not just unpalatable.

    I myself was only a third-tier drone at one of these things, but even to this day I’m tainted by the 2nd circumstance. Even though I probably should know better, I am still inclined to believe that most dysfunction is the result of impersonal, institutional bias rather than out-and-out, intentional deception.

    I am broadly inclined to believe that there is “something” to her claims which deserves serious attention. But I think a real inquiry into her background, in order to verify the validity and sources of her information is called for.

    But that THIS was the only online resource that I could find about her background shocked me:

    It’s pretty poorly written, any way you look at it (i.e., “. . . Mrs Hudes misses out on that one. And as far as being meticulous, she falls short on that one two [sic]. . . .”). Coming from an upper middle-class background myself, I found this bit pretty damned funny, TWO 🙂 : “. . . . It was through these records that I found out her husband’s real name which is different to her own!”

    I included that link here mainly for comedic value, but also in the hopes that a more diligent researcher can find more reliable information about her than this.

    • Hmm she showed up on Project Camelot? Isn’t that a bit of a red flag in it of itself?
      I hate to quote rational wiki (a bit too much contempt and disdain for me), but it sortof describes my gut feelings about it

      • Liam_McGonagle | Apr 2, 2014 at 12:16 pm |

        Quite right. But as you say, one hesitates to make judgments out of hand.

        Perhaps we ought to keep in mind Machiavelli’s maxim that no strategem is as likely to succeed as one the enemy belives that you cannot make: hiding in plain sight. For example: burying a few legitimate items of concern in a list of nonsense and publishing through discredited media outlets.

        You know, “getting in front of things”–exhausting people’s attention so that they’re not inclined to investigate too closely.

        • Agreed, the world of conspiratorial ideation is a wild one though. Once you see and can understand the strategies involved, you cannot unsee them. And its a wonderful world where once you’re there you can easily be brushed aside for even contemplating it.

    • misinformation | Apr 3, 2014 at 12:23 am |

      Provides a more thorough understanding than the previous recommendation…imo.

  3. BuzzCoastin | Apr 2, 2014 at 12:48 pm |

    whistleblower or not
    this woman is one more example
    of the futility of whistleblowing

  4. Ted Heistman | Apr 2, 2014 at 12:56 pm |

    Well, commonplace things about human civilization are really fucked up and strange. So to me, extremely strange explanations for these things are not off the table.

    For example Carlos Casteneda talking about the human ego as an alien parasite. Rings true to me.

  5. Reuben_the_Red | Apr 2, 2014 at 1:15 pm |

    I kept waiting for The Doctor to show up in his TARDIS and explain that the elongated-skull people are actually a hominid form of mushroom-person that consumes oil directly and they are intent on taking over not just Earth but the whole galaxy and they can only be stopped by surrounding them with mirrors in the shape of a pentagram in which case they become preoccupied with their own reflections and can be easily subdued.

  6. Ted Heistman | Apr 2, 2014 at 1:22 pm |

    This trope of creative vs. mathematical, is familiar to me. Its like certain elites operate purely from things like game theory and are devoid of things like compassion, intuition and empathy. Creativity is very interesting, its a mysterious thig that seems to arise from a source you could call divine.

    Different esoteric writers have talked about beings that are cut off from this source and have a parasitic relationship with human beings. Its as if these beings are self aware memetic structures that exit inside human consciousness and have no seperate existence. What is likely to me is that perhaps these mememtic beings have some how genetically engineered or selectively bred families of people to be vessels for them. I mean this is David Icke’s thessis in a sense but it doesn’t originate with him there are many sources for this idea.

    This idea has been around.

    • Rhoid Rager | Apr 2, 2014 at 8:09 pm |

      Nice to see you back in the comments section.

    • > creative vs. mathematical

      M.C. Escher would reject that trope. As would many composers.

      But the concept of parasitic memetic beings rings very true for me, and reminds me of concepts used in recovery groups, like dysfunctional family systems and codependency and addiction being diseases described as cunning, baffling, and powerful.

      • Ted Heistman | Apr 3, 2014 at 2:22 pm |

        well, he had an appreciation for the elegance of creation, that I am thinking the average engineering firm designing factory farms maybe does not…I mean there is something very cold and mathematical about a lot of the excesses of our Industrial, Corporate system. “Ahrimanic” would probably be a more fitting term

        • It might be a problem of becoming slaves to our tools. There is beauty to math, but I think it’s geometric rather than algebraic. It’s in the uses to which math is put. Music is very mathematical. And money is useful as long as it’s not made an end in itself.

    • jasonpaulhayes | Apr 3, 2014 at 3:35 pm |

      When David Icke (AKA Jesus v2.1 Beta) refers to “Reptilian Overlords”… he means Jews.

      • Ted Heistman | Apr 3, 2014 at 7:08 pm |

        well, yes and no.

        • Ted Heistman | Apr 3, 2014 at 7:09 pm |

          What I mean is, most of the people he labels Reptilians would consider themselves Jews, due to belief in British Israelism etc.

          Most European Aristocrats like to trace themselves back to King David

  7. so weird. what of the lizard people? are they the same creature that she makes reference to? lizard hominids that can mate with human women? will the real shadow creature please stand up?

  8. This woman spoke nothing that I saw on this clip interview about “a second species” living amongst us… This woman also sounded slightly off balance, which wouldn’t surprise me at all that RT is having to dig deep to find people to talk to and now have dug up people who don’t seem to be quite mentally balanced/.

  9. notalent | Apr 2, 2014 at 3:06 pm |

    Hmmm….something fishy here. If you’re looking for the “alien” stuff, it’s from the Red Ice Radio interview, not the RT. Odd that someone comes forth as a “whistleblower” and then makes the “conspiracy” media rounds like Red Ice and as someone said, Project Camelot.

    To go from talking about the Libor scandal and World Bank malfeasance to making wild, unsubstantiated claims about hominid/human hybrids based only on second hand accounts is incredibly irresponsible. It smacks of being a useful idiot/disinfo agent. When the Red Ice interviewer (who makes interesting programs) asks her about this, she gives a rambling gambit about 4th century economic collapse, alien abduction/Mkultra, Eric Snowden (sic), and the vatican.

    If i were Counterintelligence, working at the behest of global banking I would definitely muddy the waters with the ‘crazy alien stuff’. They have a track record of doing so, (Mirage Men). It is also likely, as those who spend time on fringe topics know, that intelligence operatives (wittingly or not) are likely used to infiltrate any kind of conspiracy based/ dissident media.

    • Jonas Planck | Apr 2, 2014 at 9:56 pm |

      Textbook tactics. I noticed that shortly after 9/11, the most publicly visible conspiracy theorists almost always threw in some hogwash about reptilians from Zeta Reticuli (everyone knows Reticulans are peaceful symbiotic lichens… they aren’t even spacefaring!) and how global warming is actually their attempts at terraforming Earth to be more suitable for their species. That’s ONE way to distract people away from the idea that their government might be shady!

    • BrianApocalypse | Apr 3, 2014 at 11:26 am |

      Rather than “useful idiot” I would simply say “idiot”. She’s just one of a slew of such people who make extremely similar claims, and receive exposure through the same conspiracy-theory channels. Their so called “whistleblowing” never amounts to anything, because there is very little or no truth to it and generally speaking none of it is new, it’s all stuff we’ve heard from 100 other conspiracy theorists countless times before.

      Positions of authority in “respectable” institutions (such as this woman and other “whistleblowers”allegedly had) are often cited as reasons why we should take their opinions more seriously, but it seems that no social strata is immune to the delusions of conspiracism. When asked for her evidence of a “second species”, all she can muster is vague anecdotes about associates who saw a man with a big skull at a business meeting and other similar nonsense.

  10. Rhoid Rager | Apr 2, 2014 at 8:25 pm |

    The trick of those who ‘control’ us is in spreading the idea that someone is actually in control. It’s like a game of telephone–the message gets garbled as it moves through the circle, but the point is not the message, itself, it’s in the undeniable fact that it requires one person to retell it at a time.

    • kowalityjesus | Apr 4, 2014 at 8:21 pm |

      Hell yeah man. Proselytes of The Unified Conspiracy Theory grasp at straws to hold their web of irrationality together, not willing to mature and call out the disinfo they are fed after the 79th time they hear “they will crash the economy in April,” “full disclosure is right around the corner,” or my favorite, listening to a robotic voice narrate how “depopulation is almost here.” I am glad to be hanging around with conspiracy veterans who are smart enough to realize the inherently garbled message from most easy sources.

      • Adam's Shadow | Apr 5, 2014 at 6:25 pm |

        Which seems to just be wishful thinking for the purpose of removing responsibility from ourselves: the human race as a whole is fucking itself over.

        In a way, it’s a lot more intellectually and morally comforting to think that a shadowy group of Insiders controls our every move and are responsible for all the evil shit in the world, rather than seeing that Unified Conspiracy Theory as a disinfo trap designed to keep you paranoid, fearful, and lost, and unable to effect positive change in the world and in yourself.

  11. Anthony Bronx | Apr 2, 2014 at 8:32 pm |

    Whats up with the deceiving headline? Hominids with elongated skulls? I mean the video was good, I watched it all, but no mention of a non-human race running this scheme. You want to expose people to the Truth then try getting them their without Lies!

  12. misinformation | Apr 3, 2014 at 12:22 am |

    I have to admit that I find it a bit disconcerting to see the Moyers and Co’s limited hangout, regarding the Deep State, making the rounds as THE go-to document on Deep State edification.

    A much harder hitting and more thorough understanding can be gained from one of the original Deep State researchers, Peter Dale Scott. This essay is a good start:

  13. misinformation | Apr 3, 2014 at 12:36 am |

    This is indeed a dodgy title for this post. I’ll have to take “Jacob Sloan” with a mountain of salt. Here is a link to the extremely bizarre interview where she actually mentions the “skull people”. Even Heinrik doesn’t seem to know what to do with her…

  14. Matt Staggs | Jun 17, 2014 at 3:40 pm |

    Interesting work of fiction you might enjoy: “Angelology” by Danielle Trussoni.

  15. Pyramid Pete | Jul 13, 2014 at 8:35 am |

    I watched this video 3 times and I never once heard her say anything about a “Second Species” controlling human civilization. Man you guys are smoking too much of that heavy stuff, you gotta lay off it because you are hallucinating !

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