Why So Many Americans Hate Barack Obama

Obama salutesIt ain’t just that he’s Black, explains Alan Greenblatt at NPR:

It’s a fact of American life that a good share of the electorate is disappointeddisapproving and even disdainful of President Obama. What’s less certain are the reasons why.

For some Democrats, the explanation is simple: race. In recent weeks, West Virginia Sen. Jay Rockefeller, Mississippi Rep. Bennie Thompson and former Florida Gov. Charlie Crist have all said racism is the driving force behind Republican resistance to the president.

Republicans, unsurprisingly, say their disdain for Obama is based not on the color of his skin, but on the content of his policies.

“If any white Democrat had pushed through a billion-dollar stimulus plan and a takeover of the health care industry, he would have been equally detested by conservatives and Republicans,” says Whit Ayres, a GOP pollster and consultant.

There’s no question we’re living in a time of divisive politics, when roughly half the country is likely to hate the president, no matter whom he or she might be.

But race has been a factor in American politics since the very beginning. It’s certainly part of the mix in terms of responses to Obama.

His status as the nation’s first African-American president exacerbates the concerns of those who feel the country is changing rapidly in ways that are not always comfortable.

“It’s more than just about race,” says Christopher Parker, a political scientist at the University of Washington. “He represents the changing demographic nature of America, the browning of America.”

Race Is Not The Whole Story

Obama has had to put up with indignities no white president has endured, including a protester waving a Confederate flag outside the White House gates last fall and a South Carolina congressman, Republican Joe Wilson, yelling “You lie!” at him during a 2009 address to Congress…

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  • Mr B

    “If any white Democrat had pushed through a billion-dollar stimulus plan …”

    Wow, hey big spender. We limeys “quantitatively eased” £375bn as of last year.

    • aaron

      Ya the “Federal” Reserve has been doing quantitative easing here for a while now too. You know we gotta keep the sinking ship a float as long as possible.

  • Echar Lailoken

    I don’t hate him, but he is a disappointment. I should have expected business as usual. Perhaps if an atheist, or someone with a different memetic makeup gets in office. Until then, we are fucked.

    • aaron

      Religion has nothing to do with the fact the president is just a pawn.

      • Echar Lailoken

        Maybe, maybe not… However a shift in priorities for choice of President may shift the outcome. For example Henry A. Wallace. Even though his wiki says he was a devout xian, it also notes he was dissatisfied with organized religion and sought other sources. He was pro science as well as running in the Progressive party back in the 40′s. He was a possible contender for president, instead Truman became president. Imagine if Wallace had become president. He was wicked smart and looking toward the future.

        http://www.quickiwiki.com/en/Henry_A._Wallace

    • heinrich6666

      You could say just the opposite. If any of these politicians had a deep, unutterable, primal fear of God, they wouldn’t violate their principles for fear of an eternal fiery hell. I have find an American politician today who isn’t a through-and-through scientific materialist.

      • Echar Lailoken

        The problem is, they think God is on their side. The old testament one.

        • heinrich6666

          They say that publicly. But there isn’t one of them who believes in a God.

          • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

            Their god is $$$ or power
            One can have religious feelings

            without religion

          • Echar Lailoken

            Perhaps… If they didn’t say that, they’d be out on a large portion of votes. If those even matter, or rather the public support. Or damn it, I don’t even know anymore. We’re all doomed!

          • Andrew

            Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.

          • misinformation

            I’ve heard it said that there’s an old CIA saying: GOD = Gold, Oil, Drugs. If that’s true, there’s a whole lot of politicians and bureaucrats at the altar…

      • Tuna Ghost

        I’m often dumbfounded that this fact escapes so many people’s attention. I’d like to think I understand people, since I do a pretty fair job in getting them to ignore my obvious lack of professionalism, work ethic, and respect for my superiors, but I’m continually astounded that just watching the behavior of politicians isn’t enough to give one a clue as to what they actually believe.

        Maybe it’s an “it takes a thief” sort of thing, eh?

        • heinrich6666

          It’s no wonder that so many sociopaths are said to rise to high office because the life of a politician itself is enough to induce what for all intents and purposes is sociopathy. People want ‘honest’ politicians — and yet the first time they hear something they don’t like they want to get rid of them. People claim they want everyday people as politicians — and yet demand and expect that their politicians all have the hair parted the same way, wearing the mono-color tie, the shirt-sleeves rolled up; or for the women: the power suit, the conservative cropped hair, the fake pearls. To survive as a politician, you have to carefully suppress every natural inclination and emotion and betray no private thought. You have to assume your every word is being recorded. Every statement is calculated for effect. Even when you are telling the ‘truth’ or expressing a genuinely held belief, the statement itself is so calculated against unforeseen calamity that, in effect, it is false. It almost produces a split personality. And the most successful politicians are so artful at lying that there is never any telling what they really think. There is just a void inside. Perhaps they don’t think anything at all.

          • Tuna Ghost

            One of my friends is a Korean raised in both Korea and the states, and when we were in Korea together he once confessed that he hated hanging out with both his western friends and his Korean friends at the same time because he kept having to shift between his Korean identity and his western identity. It was incredibly taxing mentally, and I imagine most politicians have the same issue except the demarcation between the two is even more subtle.

    • Chad Burke

      Obama is as close to an atheist as you can get without declaring it. The man’s only religion is clearly politics. If that’s what atheists have to offer then I’ll pass.

      • Echar Lailoken

        Right, because he’s black?

        • Chad Burke

          What does atheism have to do with race?

          • Echar Lailoken

            I don’t know. I figured I’d fire back a spurious claim like yourself.

          • Chad Burke

            What spurious claim did I make? Obama not being religious? He and his family have been in DC for six years and haven’t joined a church or chosen a pastor, and his former pastor is far from Christian. He’s part of the Jesse Jackson community organizer crowd. So what are you taking exception with?

          • Echar Lailoken

            Fox news called. They want their bit back.

          • Chad Burke

            Are you serious? That’s the best you’ve got? I support my point, ask you a straightforward question and this is how you respond? You are a child. Don’t expect any further response from me until you have something mildly interesting to say.

          • Echar Lailoken

            My point exactly. You act as though I will be missing out if you don’t reply. If I wanted your brand of rhetoric, I’d turn on Rush Limbaugh or some other shameless media whore.

  • Juan

    Hating him is a waste of energy. It is like hating a puppet-it’s a fucking puppet . . .

    • aaron

      Haha I was going to say something similar….Idk maybe people dont like him cuz he is a pawn for the elite that control this country?

      • Casie

        Barrack Hussein Obama worst pres ever! He never rescues persecuted Americans from other countries like pastor abedini in Iran or lady from Sudan or soldier in Mexico – but he releases 5 terrorist

        • Casie

          Should we go over how he is def not christian! But even more disturbing is Benghazi, IRS scandal, the worst foreign policy, Obamacare, his mentors are Marxist!! He is anti America and anti christ ( not saying he is the antichrist but he is against Christ!!)

          • Andrew

            No mention of drone assassinations or domestic spying?

            Your criticisms are bullshit.

          • Casie

            research what victoria jackson gathered on obama! How can he claim to be christian but requested they cover Christ/Jesus up which was on a wall at a college, and is for homosexuality read Leviticus 18:22 it is an abomination, he is for abortion, he wants to divide Israel an give the west bank/gaza their own county -this is gods land and it says in the bible that no one is to divide his land which YAHWEH (GOD)said is the apple of his eye and whoever divides it will suffer his wrath! Research who Obama’s mentors were! Frightening! Bill Ayers to name 1. His Immigration policy is sickening – it is his responsibility to keep America safe but he has now opened a flood gate at our borders and we are sooooo vulnerable with all types of Immigrants coming in!! Geeez I could go on for ever! He is the worst President EVER!! But people are so blinded by his charm offensive, and the color of his skin rather than the best interest of America!!!! I fear America will one day never be the same!

          • Andrew

            Victoria Jackson needs to read http://disinfo.com/2014/06/find-specific-conspiracy-theory-isnt-true/, if she can understand it.

          • emperorreagan

            I heard an interview with Victoria Jackson a while ago and wondered why she’s not in a psych ward someplace.

          • Casie

            People who are FOR a president who HAS DONE NOTHING TO HELP AMERICANS! IS LUDICRIS! people are only for him because of race! and wanting to take from people who have made it by working hard and give it to the people who dont work hard! and the people who are for him have no idea what he is doing to AMERICA or should I say not doing to America!
            he releases terrorist, made a deal with IRAN to become Nuclear who by the way every Friday in that country chant in the streets death to america, burn our flags, and sponsor terrorism and people are naive to think that with Irans new leader Rouhani that they are miraculously changing from their radicalistic Islamic ways!! Nonsense!! We are at a real threat and people dont see it! they see a president who talks a good talk but have no idea what his actions are doing!

          • Andrew

            > made a deal with IRAN to become Nuclear

            Link to evidence, please.

          • aaron

            Wow YOU ARE AN IDIOT. I try not to make fun of and bash people too much for being enslaved by their own ill informed indoctrinated views but you are just sooo goddamn annoying. Run along you pawn. Republican party and democratic party and libertarian party are a joke. They are all pawns for the elite that control this country. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about and are most definitely on the wrong site.

          • Casie

            You are all defending one of the worst presidents in history!!

          • Casie

            Please tell me what good has he done, oh let me guess you voted for him cuz u thought u would be getting free healthcare! HA HA its not frree!!!

          • Andrew

            My healthcare is actually much more affordable now, thank you very much, and my improved health is allowing me to be more productive and contribute more to the Holy Economy. I still think Obamacare should’ve had a public option like Romneycare does. But I wasn’t dumb enough to vote for either of them in 2012.

          • Casie

            I am obviously on the wrong site- the one where you people cried with joy when he was re-eleced when he did nothing good the first term but also for first time a usa president was for homosexuality and abortion and he was still re-elected! And his supporters will deny that he can do no wrong!! He is a hollywood celebrity rather than a USA president who has america and our borders secure! Unemployment is record low, food stamps are a record high, his spending is ubsurd. Another note- He called him self eye candy in GQ magazine! Our president! Disturbing! He rescues terrorist more than Americans held captive! Regarding Iran- The deal they made with them is we lifted all sanctions and obama is putting TRUST in this nation who is no secret sponsors terrorism! and we are to believe they wont produce nukes- please people are naive- these Islamic radicals will stop at nothing to create a one govt ruled by Sharia law- Iran says it will continue to produce nukes but for peaceful purposes! Sure when is Iran peaceful? As soon as Iran obtains these weapons it will be devastating for us and Israel!

          • Andrew

            You are on the wrong site. Nobody I know cried for joy when he was re-elected. I voted for the Green Party candidate.

            I support homosexuality and food stamps. I hope American will one day never be the same.

            And regarding Iran and Islam, you are badly misinformed. We haven’t lifted sanctions, precisely because Iran has refused to dismantle its nuclear infrastructure. As for Muslims supposedly creating a one-world Sharia government, there’s no chance of that happening. We have a bigger military than the next the next 10 countries combined, and the Shia and Sunni would have to stop killing each other first. http://disinfo.com/2014/07/isis-threatens-destroy-kaaba/

            Victoria Jackson is a fool.

          • Casie

            You are a die hard obama fan obviously! and for no good reason! Or maybe its because of homosexuality and abortion and other social issues. And you are mis informed regarding Islamic terrorists! Sanctions have been lifted on Iran, they have no incentive to stop producing nukes, they have said they will never stop – and they (radicals will stop at nothing to TRY to make a one world under sharia law! I didnt say will succeed, the reason they haven’t killed millions vs thousands is because they havent had the means- as soon as they get hands on chemical weapons and/or nukes then thats it- its not a matter if Iran will obtain nukes at this point, its when- Obama is not trying to stop. Obamas followers who are mostly anti christ, anti america and will follow him forever are so blinded by i dont know what? Look at the polls- People are fed up with his weak leadership in ALL aspects of protecting america! ! And when he was re-elected it was televised – people were crying for joy! Never had there been so much of hollywood idolization as people who worship him- although now seeing the polls it looks like only a few people still support him-

          • Andrew

            I won’t argue with liars like you.

          • Casie

            Our military may be the best not sure for how much longer- he has reduced our military to an alarming rate- we are so vulnerable and people have no idea!

          • Andrew

            I mentioned drone assassinations and domestic spying, which are two valid reasons to criticize him.

        • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

          But people are so blinded by his charm offensive, and the color of his skin rather than the best interest of America!!!! I fear America will one day never be the same!

          Shut the fuck up, you stupid racist.

          • Casie

            WOW! LOOK AT THE POLLS! HE IS RATED THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER!! YOU PEOPLE ARE RACIST- WHAT HAD HE DONE POSITIVELY FOR AMERICA!!! NOTHING!! I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT WHAT COLOR A PRESIDENT IS – BUT IM SAYING MAJORITY OF THE MINORITIES VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE OF COLOR AND NOT ABOUT THE BEST INTEREST OF AMERICA! IM FAR FROM RACIST-

          • Andrew

            You’re arguing with a figment of your imagination.

          • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

            Lulz

            Yes, because I care about “polls” and “America”. GTFO

            I do love that Obama stresses the fuck out of people such as yourself though. At the very least among his accomplishments, he has managed to piss off a whole bunch of ignorant racist Americans on the reg, thus further exposing the hypocrisy of this Dog Blessed Nation.

            Have fun with your rage circlejerk.

          • aaron

            Tehehehehe. If I could up vote this post 100x I would. Well said.

          • Casie

            name 1 thats all 1 good thing he has done?? HIS FOREIGN POLICY LEAVES US WEAK, HIS MENTORS ARE TERRORISTS SUCH AS BILL AYERS FROM THE WEATHER UNDERGROUND AND REV WRIGHT! YOU SUPPORT THIS???????? CRAZY PEOPLE! WHERE U FROM? BACK WOODS OF ARKANSAS?? IGNORANT PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO IDEA HOW HE IS RUNNING OUR COUNTRY- WHAT DID YOU VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE OF GUN LAWS- IS THAT ALL YOU KNEW? OR OH, FREE HEALTHCARE? (its not free) OR OH, ARE YOU GAY? OR HAD AB ABORTION OR ONLY VOTED FOR HIM BECAUSE THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN (I dont ask this cuz i am racist ignorant folks, but because most people did!) YOU WHO SUPPORT HIM ARE ANTI CHRISTIAN AMERICA!! THANKFULLY YOU CANT TAKE AWAY HISTORY AND WHAT OUR FOUR FATHERS ACCOMPLISHED! BUT IT CAN SURE BE TRAMPLED AS IT IS NOW BY THIS HORRIBLE, LYING, ANTI AMERICAN PRESIDENT!!!!!!! YOU PEOPLE NEED TO LEAVE AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

            Name 1 good thing he’s done:

            1) Expose racist white American hypocrisy

            Fuck your Christ
            Fuck your America
            Fuck your Four Fathers

            Not that you’re capable of parsing this, but…

            http://disinfo.com/2014/05/many-americans-hate-barack-obama/#comment-1384075196

          • Casie

            HA HA HA!! NOWWWW IT SHOWS WHY YOU FOLLOW HIM LIKE A CULT! IGNORANT! LEAVE THIS “HORRIBLE AMERICA” GO LIVE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY THEN! WHY DONT YOU LEAVE IF ITS SOOO BAD??? U DONT WANT TO BECAUSE OF WHAT THE FOUR FATHERS DID!

          • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

            LOL

            You don’t know how to read too well, do you?

            Barack Obama is just the latest evidence that America has been a scam since 1776 you ignorant twat. He’s no worse or better a president than the last 4 or so.

          • aaron

            Take your polls and your corporate owned mainstream media news that you read them on and shove it up your ass. If you think its the president thats the real issue in this country you are a blind indoctrinated fool. Obama and bush and clinton and bush Sr etc etc etc are all sides of the same coin. You should probably leave this site and never come back before you injure your self from having a thought outside your bubble you life in

          • Casie

            Please tell me what good he is doing for america? Oh let me see- NOTHING!!!! YOU ALL JUST WANT TO TAKE FROM THE PEOPLE WHO WORK HARD- LET ME GUESS U DONT WORK! COLLECTING GOV’T ASSISTANCE ARE YOU? THOSE SEEM TO BE THE ONES WHO ARE DIE HARD OBAMA FOLLOWERS! OR ITS THE ONES WHO FIND BILL AYERS A HERO AND REV. WRIGHT A HERO! WHO SAYS “NOT GOD BLESS AMERICA BUT GOD DAMNED AMERICA” THOSE ARE OBAMA MENTORS! IS THAT WHAT YOU ALL ARE FOR? IF YOU DONT LIKE AMERICA AND CHRISTIAN RAN AMERICA GET OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE ALL DELUSIONAL!!

          • Echar Lailoken

            One thing he is doing that is good for everyone is that he doesn’t type in all caps, nor yell. That would make him look like he’s crazy and idiotic.

          • aaron

            Goddamn you are an illiterate ranting maniac fool of a troll. Clearly you dont know how to read. No regular followers of this site support obama you are just too stupid or are insane to understand that, which I think it might be a little of both. Run along.

            PS. fuck organized religions in general which includes your christian “god”

  • BuzzCoastin

    hate is the wrong word
    disappointed maybe, for those short changed by hope

    • heinrich6666

      You’d think so. He came in with the popularity of Jesus Christ, and did absolutely zero. Today everybody forgets that. You can only not gush over the guy for pathological reasons!

  • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

    ¡Shocker Special!™

    I too was hoodwinked by Obama™ in 2007. He certainly seemed more likable and genuine than either Hilary™ or that pond scum John Edwards™. Sure, he didn’t really have much of a resume, but he was demonstrably more intelligent than the last guy…

    *sigh*

    In many ways, were it not for this process of disillusionment, I might still be “hating” presidents today and caught up in the illusion that is the Two Party System™. Obama seems smart enough that he must have known he was going to be a brand manager from the drop. Shrub Jr., on the other hand, just happened to have the wrong name and wrong people around him. I can now recognize his humanity and see him as not “responsible” for his administration. And so on, and so forth.

    Oh noes! The President is just a man, and the office means nothing, really! Stop giving away your power to puppets and the rest of the shadow theater.

    • Juan

      I think you are onto something in suggesting that Barry has actually done many of us a huge favor by waking more people up to the farce of one corporate party with two right wings that passes for “democracy” in the US.

      • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

        Imagine my surprise one year in… didn’t I leave this party ten years ago???

        That on top of watching the Democrats squash the Greens like a bug in San Francisco… yeah, I’m all good on party politics.

        Duh Civicz Class is still burrowed too deeply in though, so I can’t completely abandon electoral politics. Fortunately, every now and then an interesting thing or two crops up via ballot initiative…
        http://www.nowallonthewaterfront.com/

        There’s still a stick or two left we can jab in Our Corporate Masters’ Eye before they start the fire sale…

    • Andrew

      I guess the Far Right is right about one thing, at least. We can’t depend on government for anything, so it might as well be done away with.

      • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

        And this is probably what the Far Right℠ has been cultivated to do all along: destroy public infrastructure and prepare for violent suppression. Because an Overton Window™ just doesn’t look right without some wingnuts hanging around.

        The more I think about it, the more I am struck by the oddity of the behavior of the Far Right℠. Mistakenly duped into believing something like Santa Claus American Exceptionalism™ could actually be true, it absolutely prevented them from seeing that by loading up on guns, bullets, weapons, and other miscellaneous “militia” related accessories they were not only helping to generate massive $$$ for the public branch of the military-industrial complex (hence further entrenching their power) while also setting the ground to build up the national infrastructure to violently suppress any type of significant mass action. If the Far Right℠ were worth Two Shits™, they should have revolted a decade or two ago now. Because, Liberty and ‘Merica.

        Anything less than a full uprising now is basically just sending lambs to the slaughter. And since that full uprising will likely never happen (or at least not until TPTB are “ready” for it), we must develop tactics that cannot be so easily countered.

        Making TPTB kill government, for the time being, keeps them focused elsewhere…

      • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

        If you’re interested in some Neo-Civil War Porn though…

        Brian Wood wrote an intriguing what if graphic novel a few years ago, DMZ that posited a “homeland uprising” in fairly convincing fashion.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMZ_(comics)

        • Matt Staggs

          I love DMZ. I interviewed Brian about it for the DisinfoCast when that was a thing. I actually interviewed a ton of cool people (Warren Ellis, Jon Ronson, Henry Rollins, Graham Hancock, etc. etc.) while the DisinfoCast was going, but nobody really seemed to give a crap so I stopped doing it.

          Anyway, back to Wood: His new series The Massive is pretty good, too. I’ve met him a couple of times at SDCC and NYCC. Very quiet guy in person, but extremely nice.

          • emperorreagan

            I liked the podcast. Also waiting to see if you do another project as Danielle seemed to indicate on his podcast.

          • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

            Oooh, The Massive looks chock full of heady goodness. Thanks for the rec!

            As to the life & times of podcasting, I came across this piece a few months ago talking about why audio doesn’t “go viral”…

            Those in the Internet audio business tend to give two explanations for this disparity. “The greatest reason is structural,” says Jesse Thorn, who hosts a public radio show called “Bullseye” and runs a podcast network called Maximum Fun. “Audio usage takes place while you’re doing something else.” You can listen while you drive or do the dishes, an insuperable competitive advantage over text or video, which transforms into a disadvantage when it comes to sharing the listening experience with anyone out of earshot. “When you’re driving a car, you’re not going to share anything,” says Thorn.

            The second explanation is that you can’t skim sound. An instant of video is a still, a window into the action that you can drag through time at will. An instant of audio, on the other hand, is nothing. “If I send someone an article, if they see the headline and read a few things, they know what I want them to know,” a sound artist and radio producer told me. “If I send someone audio, they have to, like… listen to it.” It’s a lot to ask of an Internet audience.

            “There was a huge wave of initial excitement around podcasting changing and disrupting and turning upside-down radio seven years ago, or longer,” says PRX’s Jake Shapiro. “And then it kind of just petered out.”

            While the number of podcasts has proliferated, the vast majority of episodes have audiences in the double or triple digits, judging from the experience of podcast hosting giant Libsyn. “If you want to do the average, our mean podcast? Now you’re looking at like 200, 250 downloads per episode,” Libsyn’s Rob Walch told NextMarket Insights’s Michael Wolf. The majority of top podcasts, far from being grassroots disruptors, are major public radio shows: “This American Life,” “Wait Wait Don’t Tell Me,” and “Radiolab.” It’s the dominant way of finding an on-demand audio audience on the Internet, but it’s more Hulu than YouTube.

            More fundamental than marketing is the question of where audio makers see a market. “So far nobody is producing audio, really, for an audience that might be scanning for things to enjoy,” says Shapiro.

            “It’s somewhat of a chicken and egg thing,” he says, “Until producers have any kind of confidence that there’s an audience or some money to be made — or preferably both — they’re not really targeting it.”

            Perhaps Facebook will tweak its algorithms to favor audio. Perhaps SoundCloud or PRX or Apple will make a social alternative to podcasting. “It’s possible that someone will make this app that’s all about sharing audio that will be the next Snapchat,” suggests Seth Lind. “That’s obviously not going to happen,” he quickly adds, to make sure I know he’s joking. “If it can’t be used for pornography it’s never going to be the most popular thing.”

            But Jeff Cohen and “Fletch & Vaughan” demonstrate that audio makers don’t have to wait for a deep shift in technology to court a viral audience. They would, however, have to create audio not for already-dedicated radio and podcast listeners, but for the distracted, impatient crowd that is the web. Audio enthusiasts would have to evangelize on that work’s behalf, not just in coffee shops or emails to each other, but online, loudly, with the same manipulative, click-chasing techniques wielded by the rest of the web.

            (via: https://digg.com/originals/why-audio-never-goes-viral )

            Personally, listening to talking = all of my attention, so I’ve never really been a big talk format listener–too ADD ADHD ABCD or whatever for people noise. The irony is all the talk and mixed format radio I’ve ghost produced (great work, if you can get it).

            Based on the Brian Woods DisinfoCast, you execute a pretty solid, conversational Q&A format. There’s a lot of engaging content–really great interview–covers a wide range of topics and themes while still staying thematic. The usual course of action would be format change before resorting to “indefinite hiatus”.

            What kind of microphone do you use?

          • Matt Staggs

            I use a Yeti Blue microphone and record directly from Skype. From there I edit and filter in Garageband (or did, until they stopped supporting podcasting), export to Audacity for additional compression, leveling, etc., and then finally upload to Libsyn. It was a lot of work for a handful of listeners and a whole lot of very negative people who took time out of their presumably busy day to slam me (my voice, my delivery, my interview methods) on iTunes. At the end of the day, it wasn’t worth my time or the bandwidth costs. I do some podcasting now off and on, but it’s a more or less format-free whatever-I-want kind of thing. I regularly tell people to turn off the show and go listen to something else if they don’t like it. I mean, hell, that’s what I do, but I actually value my time, LOL.

            I’m actually ADHD myself (the inattentive daydreamy in and out of focus type), but the big bad scary prescription medications have really helped. Never understood why people can rail on and on about “sovereignty of consciousness” and DMT, yet still feel perfectly comfortable telling me or others about my brain and how I choose to regulate what I consider to be distressful malfunctions (depression, anxiety, whatever) that otherwise keep me from being happy and productive. I had some hippy psychonaut online lecture me about how obsessive-compulsive disorder doesn’t exist, and neither does my mind, maaaaaaaaan.

            I consider it another manifestation of the rejection of science currently going on in our country, as well as the ongoing stigma of mental illness. I mean, you can’t really call into work with a case of debilitating depression, or if you did, you’d be treated like an idiot and eventually pushed out the door.

            Sorry for the topic drift there. Just in a mood today.

          • Echar Lailoken

            Never understood why people can rail on and on about “sovereignty of consciousness” and DMT, yet still feel perfectly comfortable telling me or others about my brain and how I choose to regulate

            I’ve noticed that these types rarely append that sometimes the meds work for some people. Not that my experience with an SSRI was good. Honestly the side effects were worse (mild seizures every so often while going to bed, and slow thinking). I felt a lack of focus from those. I decided to go off them.

            I hear ya about the comment about work and depression. Go in moody and get branded as bad attitude, which can be a stigma that can travel with you to the next job. Depending on if the boss is a jerk and gives a bad review.

          • misinformation

            “I consider it another manifestation of the rejection of science currently going on in our country”

            Is there really any more rejection of science than any other time in history? I tend to believe we’re living in Huxlye’s “scientific dictatorship of the future”. The widespread adoption of GMOs, the high rates of pharmaceutical prescriptions, computer climate models, government schooling (I’ll come up with some others if I have to ;).

          • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

            Whoopsie! Sorry I missed this, Matt.

            I use a Yeti Blue microphone and record directly from Skype.

            While it sounds like you’re running a fairly bare bones operation, just a suggestion: if there’s ever a budget for a gear upgrade, get an EV RE-20 and a decent pre. This is the “secret” behind practically every voice in radio. Or if you ever have an urge to burn some money, we roll with U87s in duh studioze.

            From a pacing standpoint, sometimes you get a little rushed in your “delivery”, but for someone presumably learning and doing this on their own, I think you execute at a very high level. ADD and all, I wouldn’t have made it to the end of the podcast if I didn’t find the Q&A thoughtful and personable.

            It’s unfortunate, but it seems like most people prefer to pass time on the internet being assholes rather than baring any resemblance to a decent human being. Fuck the haters, and podcast on!

            I’m actually ADHD myself (the inattentive daydreamy in and out of focus type), but the big bad scary prescription medications have really helped.

            For a time, it seemed like they helped for me as well. Then the amphetamine started to work like amphetamine, and I decided I was all good on that front. Obviously, not everyone gets the same mileage or goes the same route. Personally, I simply tired of people claiming to be experts playing around with my neurochemistry as if it were as easy as 2+2=4. All that said, I would never blanket advocate avoiding medication. If one starts with bioindividuality as one’s foundation, it becomes much more of a challenge to become dogmatic.

            I find the more one ventures into the psychonaut community, the more one finds they’ve simply transferred their zealous idolatry to a new substance/image/organizing principle/imaginary fairy. Ditto “the occult”, “new age”, or any other reactionary shit Western Civilization passes through its bowels. Christianity is a hell of a drug, if you catch my drift…

            And this is the country that weaponized skin color, so I guess we really shouldn’t be surprised that most lack the nuance to accept something “they can’t see” as “real”.

          • Jonas Planck

            That’s a shame… I wrote in Henry Rollins for president last election… Unfortunately, I found out a few years back that I can’t vote, although I CAN donate unlimited funds anonymously to any candidate I want without having to disclose my secret agenda in doing so. Too bad I consider that a waste of money… hookers are much cheaper, and they don’t stick around for four years… Also, their reactions are priceless when they find out I’m nothing but a box with wires attached to it.

    • aaron

      I agree that obama winning and not really changing anything from bush’s reign has awakened some (not as man as hoped) democrats the fact the two psrty system id a sham and controlled… however is still meet way too many people that worship obama and act like he is some sort of saint and will defend him doing the exact same thing they bitched about bush doing. *sigh*

      • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

        The answer to your quandary can be found in the study of that Great American Pastime™ known as FOOTBALL!.

        What other game is more quintessentially ‘Merica than FOOTBALL!? It’s all about wearing tight pants and unapologetically taking other peoples’ land by force. Doing both of these things with style inspires duh loyalty of the masses, due to the violent and immediate nature of the spectacle, which distracts them for a time from their workaday cares. And so you have THE TEAM. There is only THE TEAM, there has ever only been THE TEAM, and there will ever only be THE TEAM.

        Advertisers, despite their inability to generate original content, are smart enough to see a good thing, and just competent enough to weaponize it for sale to the highest bidder.

        • aaron

          Got this from a website showing the similarities of the fall of rome to current the United States…

          “Obsession with Sports and Entertainment -
          The Roman poet Juvenal (circa 100 A.D.) wrote regarding the way latter-day Roman emperors retained power and control over the masses that were seemingly more than happy to obsess themselves with trivialities and self-indulgences while their once-great-and-powerful empire collapsed before their very eyes. He wrote:

          “Already long ago, from when we sold our vote to no man, the People have abdicated our duties; for the People who once upon a time handed out military command, high civil office, legions–everything, now restrains itself and anxiously hopes for just two things: bread and circuses.” (Wikipedia) (LINK)

          Many American men have allowed sports to control and dominate their lives. With many, sports are not just a hobby; they are a religion. When men stripped their shirts off and painted their faces, they were heading to the battlefield to kill their enemies. Now they are headed off to the sports coliseum to watch a football game. A man’s ego and machismo was once used to protect his family and freedom; now it’s used to follow batting averages and box scores.

          Scholars are generally consistent in noting that one of the factors in the “Fall” of Rome was the Roman obsession with entertainment and consequent loss of civic duty. (“bread and circuses”) In many modern books written about Ancient Rome and her people, the ancient Romans are often portrayed as people who enjoyed violence and thought it amusing to see people being injured and killed to the point of obsession. It is now common knowledge that, in Ancient Rome, people often attended (and enjoyed) gladiatorial fights to the death, wild beast hunts, naval battles and chariot racing. Some public thinkers today have suggested that “entertainment” today, as it was in ancient times of Rome, reflects the decline of culture, into a plethora of lust, greed, violence, selfish individualism and bad behavior. Some Scholars suggest that history is repeating itself and we are now in a reoccurring cycle of moral decay and social breakdown. From the excessive amount of glorified violence in Hollywood movies, video games, music and on the internet, one can easily see the downward spiral of decency.”

          • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

            A lot of the above I agree with, but the last paragraph is a minefield.

            The Romans not only had their elite with their own superstitions to compete with in the writing of the history, but also the Xtians with an axe to grind and somehow justify their existence by “moralizing” the Evil Pagan Empire™. So while I don’t doubt that the Romans were probably pretty bloodthirsty both at work and at play, I tend to wonder if they were really any better or any worse than any other Highly Refined Civilization™.

            Social breakdown, that I’ll buy. Moral decay? How “moral” can an infinite growth paradigm based on violent conquest and subjugation ever be? The only “moral” times I track in either civilization is the difference between when the inner party notices how bad everyone else has it and when the “how bad” starts to be bad for them.

            As for culture, Americans, much like the Romans, would have no culture were it not for its subjugated peoples. Both peoples share a kinship in being rather dull… I guess that’s why both elevate violence to such a Hight Art™–write what you know.

          • aaron

            Oh i agree. I didnt copy a lot of the rest of the stuff or send the link because it was talking about morals in the context of Judeo-christian values. And I dont really think the romans were any more violent than say the average American but since they didnt have tv and video games and such it had to be done with real people.

    • Redstart

      I too was disappointed with Obama’s performance once elected. I expected action on the Wall Street crimes, and hoped for but did not expect action on the Cheney-Bush war crimes. Fortunately Elizabeth Warren has picked up the ball on the first, and surely the passage of time will convict the second. I’m pleased the ACA went through, I could not get insurance otherwise. And I take some comfort knowing that the country would be in a hell of a mess if the Repugs stayed in power. Hopefully the Dems can hang on long enough to wrest SCOTUS back from the corporatists.

      Oh, and I sincerely believe the hatred of Obama is mostly about race. Never has any other President been so blatantly disrespected. They told us even if we loathed the Shrub we should still respect the office, but they have no problem in refusing to do the same for Obama. Jerks.

  • misinformation

    I like the puppet comments.

    But I did think of at least one answer to the article’s question…

    I was ( am) going to say, because he’s a sociopath who, among other things, meets on Tuesdays to decide who he’s going to kill that day?

    • Mr B

      Thank you.
      No one puts a gun to this willing executioner’s $11.8m head.

      • Matt Staggs

        “Urban Entomologist” could be a “remake in spirit” of “Urban Cowboy”.

    • HCE

      That’s it right there. My dislike of him has nothing to do with politics, only the principals of basic human decency. Obomba is neither decent, nor human.

      • Andrew

        “Basic human decency” does not include denying the humanity of those who are indecent.

        • gustave courbet

          It is perhaps more disturbing to acknowledge that we share our humanity with the inhumane.

        • HCE

          I don’t think it’s unkind, nor inhuman to hold the species to a basic minimum standard of behaviour. If someone wants to behave like a pre sapiens, then they should be identified as such, because it’s hard to recognize them when they are well spoken and wear nice suits.Your comment is cute, but smacks of circular reasoning/circular cause and consequence.

          • Andrew

            I disagree.

          • aaron

            Umm just by this response makes me know you clearly have lack of understanding of circular reasoning. Rewording something to mean a completely different thing than said before is not circular reasoning.

  • Tchoutoye

    Obama is not taking over the health care industry. He’s helping the health care industry take over.

    • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

      Are you saying that the economic activity of the health care industry is not helpful to our GDP?

      Get thee behind me®, Socialist™.

    • Oginikwe

      You can thank Karen Ignagni for that:

      KAREN IGNAGNI, Pres., America’s Health Insurance Plans: We entered this year being committed to change, being committed to restructuring and committed to actually helping to get this done. We hear the American people about what’s not working. We’ve taken that very seriously. You have our commitment to play, to contribute, and to help pass health care reform this year. (Of course, none of that was true.)

      NARRATOR: Cutting deals with health care industry groups was right down Max Baucus’s alley. (Baucus is the one who engineered the whole thing.)
      PAUL BLUMENTHAL, Sunlight Foundation: In 2008,during his reelection campaign, which is really when this debate began, he raised well over a million dollars only from the health insurance sector. That’s a pretty astounding amount for somebody who’s going to have a central role in this debate.
      NARRATOR: In all, Baucus received more than $2.5 million from special interest groups in the health industry.
      KAREN IGNAGNI: I thought Senator Baucus did a spectacular job of handling that, not getting rattled in any way, handling it in a not only very professional way but an empathetic way.(Of course she did: she’s why the public option never had a seat at the table in the first place courtesy of Baucus.)

      HOWARD DEAN, Chair, Democratic Nat’l Cmte., 2005-09:The Senate bill, you know, frankly, is just an insurance company bill. The insurance companies, actually, literally did write it. There were two senior staffers in Max Baucus’s office, one who used to work for United Health Care and one who used to work for WellPoint, who wrote the bill. It’s a great bill from the insurance companies’ point of view. It doesn’t happen to do a whole lot to change the system and to bring reform.

      Obama made a deal with the devil. From: Frontline “Obama’s Deal”

  • Lookinfor Buford

    How could racism be the factor when the man is the epitome of what classical white folk have always wanted non-whites to aspire to? He conducts himself, carries himself no differently than a white politician. He’s a lawyer. He’s Harvard-educated. Ironically, he’s almost nothing like the many people who blindly voted for him *because* of his race (racists). Never have you seen him, even jokingly speak in the slang of the common black folks in this country. His personality and demeanor is far removed from the common minority individual in this country, and even more *white* than you’re average Caucasian. I find it hysterical.

    I think the vast majority of Obama-haters in this country dislike him for reasons other than race. On the flip side, the vast majority of Obama-lovers love him for exactly that reason. How twisted is that?

    • Andrew

      > Never have you seen him, even jokingly speak in the slang of the common black folks in this country.

      I did, twice. On TV. Sust sayin’. BFD.

      • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ
      • Chad Burke

        Yeah, he’s slipped into either the rousing preacher persona or the middle class but I have street friends lingo when its suited his audience, but all presidents try to swing outside their wheel house. W. trying to quote the who. Clinton playing his sax or hangin in Harlem.

    • aaron

      I said this same thing to some people who only voted for him cuz he was half black. I was like first of all he is only half black and acts more white than most white people do and he is rich and was raised by is white grandmother. The answer I got from a black guy i know was “well at least he got some nigger in him” and then I thought to my self ok so im dealing with not only a racist but a idiot as well.

      • Jonas Planck

        I only half-voted for him. Then I half-voted against him. That way, I’m only half racist, and the other half is also racist, too, which -according to Racist’s Rules of Order- equals not being racist at all!

        • aaron

          Well since he is half black and half white then if you only half voted for him then you are only a quarter racist but since they cancel each other out its doesn’t matter haha

    • Tuna Ghost

      How could racism be the factor when the man is the epitome of what classical white folk have always wanted non-whites to aspire to?

      If history is any judge, he is the opposite of what classical white folk have always wanted non-whites to aspire to.

      • mannyfurious

        Yep.

  • heinrich6666

    I’m not clear on why an NPR story would be judged worthy of being posted here anyway.

    • HCE

      Good point. NPR is to the Left what Fox is to the Right.

      • Jin The Ninja

        center, but okay.

        • heinrich6666

          Amazing to me that having a problem with Barack Obama would be treated as a sociological question, and not, say, one of decency, principle, humanity, or morality. But that’s NPR for you. Don’t like Obama? How quirky! How strange!

        • HCE

          Well, if we’re going to be honest, we have to Right wings here in ‘Murica.

          • Jin The Ninja

            everywhere it seems. right and deeper shades of right.

    • misinformation

      Isn’t an organization such as NPR, which is taken seriously by millions of people, “worthy” of a post if, for no other reason than millions of people taking it seriously?

      I often wonder if people understand disinfo (the website) the way I do. Half the reason I come here is to avoid reinforcing my confirmation bias…

      • heinrich6666

        I can’t answer that for you. I can only say that I take NPR to be pretty inconsequential. There are bigger lies, more complex and subtle lies, announced by bigger outlets that affect greater numbers of people. These I find interesting. NPR, by contrast, is about as ineffectual as you can get.

    • aaron

      These types of articles are posted here so we can point out the disinformation in them in the comments section, hence the name of the website….

      • heinrich6666

        That’s a fine assumption. But even if it were so: some cases are so obvious as to not be worth the time.

        • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

          …not all the campers are running at the same pace…

        • aaron

          How is it an assumption when thats what happens? Im not saying its the only reason for the website…. And their articles are shared on the Facebook page and other people share them too so it sometimes attracts people to the site. I assume the more obvious ones are more for the sheep who dont see whats going on than the people who do. We have had more than one troll wander in off the mean streets of facebook and argue some statist nonsense they heard on mainstream media.

      • Juan

        This is also why I like it here:)

    • Andrew

      Because you’re not the boss.

    • Jonas Planck

      Top of the “most discussed” column… I think I can hazard a guess as to why. Everybody loves a good word-fight!

  • Ted Heistman

    He has weak body language. He doesn’t come across as a leader. I actually think he’d face more prejudice if he had a stronger personality. He comes across as completely inoffensive and innocuous. Its a subtle thing that leaves you feeling annoyed with him without being sure why. Its this sinking feeling that he is not in charge, which means other mysterious shadowy figures are actually the ones at the helm.

    You feel like he must know who they are, but yet its obvious he isn’t standing up to them, so then he comes off as a coward. He is in a position to maker a difference, yet doesn’t.

    • Andrew

      Some people seem to find him quite offensive and not innocuous at all.

    • gustave courbet

      You don’t become president these day without being afraid of the right people.

    • Oginikwe

      With Reagan we had no doubt who was in charge: Don Regan. The only Treasury Secretary I ever saw tell a president to “hurry up.”

      • Ted Heistman

        I think all Presidents since Reagan have been cut from the same cloth. Clinton and Obama, especially. I think Bush sr. was more of an actual insider, but his son was obviously a flunky front man.

        • Oginikwe

          I would amend that to “starting with Reagan” instead of “since Reagan,” although Carter did some questionable things, too. But the real damage began with Reagan and his deregulation of everything, especially the media for his friend, Rupert Murdoch.

          • Ted Heistman

            Isn’t it a bit redundant to say that Reagan is cut from the same cloth as himself?

          • Oginikwe

            Yes, I guess it would. Sorry!

          • misinformation

            I’m comfortable with the idea that “the real damage” started well before Reagan.

      • Ted Heistman

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR3RqMMIwD4

        It really is illustrative of the underlying dynamic. Body language, demeanor, everything.

        • Oginikwe

          Thanks for posting that, Ted. I have a problem getting links through.
          I love the way Regan sucks his snot as he’s getting ready to tell Reagan to “speed it up.” Masters of the Universe indeed.

  • Mr B

    Not liking all this puppet talk.
    It smacks of typical storm troop apologizing: “Let’s shake our collective fist at a mysterious abstract master, leaving the conspicuous executioner to continue their atrocities with impunity.”

    • Jonas Planck

      What the hell do you think we elect presidents for in the first place? It sure as hell ain’t to run things! SOMEBODY’S got to be the most conspicuous target for all the blaming we have to do to keep ourselves confident! Personally, I prefer Bush Secundus, he was MUCH easier to hate. Just so smug and clueless, like a coked-up special needs child… With Obama, you can almost believe he has some sort of authority or something… almost.

      • Chad Burke

        I’m sorry, you found Bushy smug as compared to Obama? The guy’s pic should be the definition of smug in Webster’s, nothing else needed. Have you ever seen him demonstrate any humility in a way that wasn’t obviously self serving?

        • Andrew

          You realize you’re arguing over whose subjective impressions of the guy are true, right?

          • Juan

            I like vanilla, therefore vanilla is better. Makes perfect sense to me:)

          • Chad Burke

            Sure, and most honest people would subjectively categorize b.o. as smug.

          • Andrew

            I subjectively categorize him as timid.

          • misinformation

            It seems far more appropriate to argue over which one is a bigger douchebag, no?

            *Footnote: Yes! Got to use the word douchebag.

  • heimp

    Well, the authoritarians hate him because he’s not in their group and the anti-authoritarians hate him because he’s way too authoritarian (or at least won’t stand up to the authoritarians in his administration). It’s basically a catch 22

    • Andrew

      I think there’s a busload of whistleblowers who would disagree with you about him not being an authoritarian.

  • HelloFeds

    It’s all about him being black. Couldn’t possibly be because he’s a serial murderer of little brown children in places like Yemen and Pakistan. Nah, couldn’t possibly be that.

    • Andrew

      That’s not a criticism I usually hear. I mostly agree with it (he has lots of accomplices), but I don’t often hear it.

    • Oginikwe

      Iraq and Afghanistan doesn’t count?

    • aaron

      Serial murderer? That is racist, bro.

      • HelloFeds

        I sense there may be a level of irony here I’m not quite getting…..

        • aaron

          Oh was just quoting one of the more used responses of obama supporters when you critique his policies and actions. A lot say “thats racist” or when you point out him doing the exact same thing bush was they say “well he inherited a mess.”

          Im like hmmm really? “Inheriting a mess” is why he is continuing the totalitarian imperialistic agenda ehh?….interesting……Whatever you gotta tell yourself to sleep better at night. Run a long little sheep back to the herd.

  • Echar Lailoken

    Like I said above. They may have a different way of viewing of the world, and have different ways of solving problems. This is hypothetical of course, because we know Chrinos would cry holy hell, and less would get done.

  • Juan

    Rednecks, mouth-breathers, bible thumpers, etc, hate him because he is a black man in the White House-not complicated. They are also frightened by his rhetoric and see him as a “socialist.” Not that any of them could even tell you what a socialist is, only that it is bad because the tv said so.
    Other people may hate him or have issues with him because they see him as being different from the shrub in form only, while the content remains the same. He is seen as simply another corporate-state (fascist) front man brought in to carry on the farce.

  • misinformation

    “…all the worst presidents (other than Obama) were christians…”

    If I were making that list – toward the top would have to be Nixon and Hoover (can everybody be at the top of my list?), both identified as Quakers.

  • Oginikwe

    The irony here is that if he left office, moved to Kenya, and was elected president there, he’d be their first white president.
    Doh!

    • Juan

      Exactly, “whiteness” is not and never has been a function of skin tone. Just look at how the Irish, Italians, Greeks, Jews, and Poles became “white” in the US.

    • Ted Heistman

      I know that in South Africa, people of mixed race are called “colored” not white, so I am not sure that would be the case. Anyway, That Kenyan guy might not be his Father. His mother had a boyfriend around the time he was born who looks a lot more like Barrack than the Kenyan guy.

      • Oginikwe

        Kenya is far from South Africa.
        Questioning his place of birth isn’t enough? Now you cast aspirations on his parentage?

        • Ted Heistman

          Um…basically, yes. He has a really strange past, with lots of gaps in the narrative.

          • Oginikwe

            But that is an aspersion against his mother, as though she wouldn’t know who his father is. Where did you hear this theory? This is a new one to me.

          • Chad Burke

            His mother has a long history of aspersions cast against her, all capped off with abandoning her son. She was not a chaste woman and for her to be unsure of the father would not be a great stretch.

          • Andrew

            Do you have evidence she “was not a chaste woman?”

          • Chad Burke

            Yeah, I do. If you need it go look it up. The timeline is pretty simple.

          • Juan

            “Not a chaste woman.” Dude, that’s some crazy, bible thumping, Puritan rhetoric right there. Are you serious?

          • Chad Burke

            Its a less offensive way of describing her promiscuity, which is pretty well documented. Funny that you ascribe so much to a simple turn of phrase.

          • Echar Lailoken

            Joke account?

          • Andrew

            Since you made the assertion, rather than go try to find evidence myself, I’ll just assume you’re lying.

          • Chad Burke

            You don’t agree and are too lazy to confirm so it must be a lie. Great philosophy.

          • Andrew

            It is. It’s called “the burden of proof.”

            If you’re too lazy to back up your own allegation, why should I do your work for you?

          • Chad Burke

            This isn’t a court of law. I’m under no burden to prove anything to you here. As for laziness, I’ve done the work, I’ve obtained the knowledge, why do I need to give it to you? I couldn’t care less if you believe me because I have the facts, as they are. Did all of your teachers just give you every answer? When they didn’t did you consider them lazy? Look it up, Obama has a fascinating history that MSM hasn’t touched, whether you like him or not. A lot of his parent’s ideologies, behavior and flaws have manifested through him.

          • Andrew

            Yeah, sure.

  • BillMillerTime

    Turns out that Joe WIlson was right all along; we now know that Obama was in fact lying about Obamacare.

    • Andrew

      Romneycare has a public option.

    • Chad Burke

      Somebody should buy that guy a beer.

  • Lefthandedcigs1

    If the bastard was not black he would never have been elected. That is what happens when uninformed people vote, over and over.

    • mannyfurious

      You really believe that because you are a Moron. Just thought someone should let you know.

      • Lefthandedcigs1

        Actually anyone with a fucking brain in their head would not have voted for him a second time had they done any research on his useless ass unless they are a communist!

        • Jonas Planck

          You called a corporatist a communist, after saying other people are “uninformed?”
          Well, I guess everyone’s entitled to their delusions, after all… BTW, that dog also pissed on a McCain sign, so you might want to keep him under surveillance… it’s obviously an ANTI-AMERICAN dog!

          • Lefthandedcigs1

            I actually saw no difference in the 2. Both traitors. Do YOUR homework.

          • Andrew

            You say that like treason is a bad thing.

        • mannyfurious

          I don’t think you get it. I was letting you know you were a moron so you could do something about it…..

        • Andrew

          I was going to upvote your comment until the last word.

        • Oginikwe

          So, you would have voted for McCain/Palin?
          That’s hilarious!

  • misinformation

    I figured it was tongue-in-cheek. And I understand Quakers are a subcategory but I like to think of the “wing” that’s not so into scripture and focuses on the “inner light” as “not Christian”. I don’t know why and I know it’s not really accurate…idk.

    How ’bout that Quaker Oats guy?

  • Mr B

    Imo, we the leavers of Plato’s cave, ought to shame Obama supporters like those of Hitler. Ostracise, spit on them in the street, abstain from paying to see their films, embarrass and undermine their typically psychotic hypocrisy at every opportunity; aim for a two tier society, between the conscionables and tacit drone strike fans.

    Make life impossibly grim for those smug, giddy, reprobates, who since the dawn of time, have dutifully given respectability to pure evil and seldom tasted comeuppance.

    • Andrew

      Yeah, that’s what the Buddha did.

      • Mr B

        Really? What was the consequence?

  • http://americancannibal.org/ American Cannibal

    I hate all Presidents.

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