Chelsea Manning On How the Military Hides The Truth From America

PIC: How Chelsea Manning sees herself. Portrait by Alicia Neal, commissioned by the Chelsea Manning Support (C)

PIC: How Chelsea Manning sees herself. Portrait by Alicia Neal, commissioned by the Chelsea Manning Support (C)

FORT LEAVENWORTH, Kan. — WHEN I chose to disclose classified information in 2010, I did so out of a love for my country and a sense of duty to others. I’m now serving a sentence of 35 years in prison for these unauthorized disclosures. I understand that my actions violated the law.

However, the concerns that motivated me have not been resolved. As Iraq erupts in civil war and America again contemplates intervention, that unfinished business should give new urgency to the question of how the United States military controlled the media coverage of its long involvement there and in Afghanistan. I believe that the current limits on press freedom and excessive government secrecy make it impossible for Americans to grasp fully what is happening in the wars we finance.

If you were following the news during the March 2010 elections in Iraq, you might remember that the American press was flooded with stories declaring the elections a success, complete with upbeat anecdotes and photographs of Iraqi women proudly displaying their ink-stained fingers. The subtext was that United States military operations had succeeded in creating a stable and democratic Iraq.

Those of us stationed there were acutely aware of a more complicated reality.

Military and diplomatic reports coming across my desk detailed a brutal crackdown against political dissidents by the Iraqi Ministry of Interior and federal police, on behalf of Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki. Detainees were often tortured, or even killed.

Early that year, I received orders to investigate 15 individuals whom the federal police had arrested on suspicion of printing “anti-Iraqi literature.” I learned that these individuals had absolutely no ties to terrorism; they were publishing a scholarly critique of Mr. Maliki’s administration. I forwarded this finding to the officer in command in eastern Baghdad. He responded that he didn’t need this information; instead, I should assist the federal police in locating more “anti-Iraqi” print shops.

I was shocked by our military’s complicity in the corruption of that election. Yet these deeply troubling details flew under the American media’s radar.

It was not the first (or the last) time I felt compelled to question the way we conducted our mission in Iraq. We intelligence analysts, and the officers to whom we reported, had access to a comprehensive overview of the war that few others had. How could top-level decision makers say that the American public, or even Congress, supported the conflict when they didn’t have half the story?

Among the many daily reports I received via email while working in Iraq in 2009 and 2010 was an internal public affairs briefing that listed recently published news articles about the American mission in Iraq. One of my regular tasks was to provide, for the public affairs summary read by the command in eastern Baghdad, a single-sentence description of each issue covered, complementing our analysis with local intelligence.

via Chelsea Manning on the U.S. Military and Media Freedom – NYTimes.com.

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  • Andrew

    In before transphobic whining!

    • BuzzCoastin

      those double entendre jokes crack me up

  • lilbear68

    she looks as good as chaz bono ever did

    • BuzzCoastin

      Chaz would kill to look like Chelsea

      • lilbear68

        I thought about this combo and I still wonder. initially chaz came out as a lesbian then after time had gender transfer surgery (the addadicktome procedure) if she was still attracted to women after the surgery would that then make her/it hetero? or would she remain true to her LGBT ties and go for guys then?

        • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

          the problem is not the label that is applied to/by Chaz
          but your understanding of gender, sexuality, and self

          PS. The ‘T’ in LGBT stands for Transsexual or Transgender, so…

          http://www.derper.com/images/50360e011d41c8769e0000c6.jpg?mw=555

          • lilbear68

            I know the T stands for transgender/transexual
            then which part is mistaken or misunderstood if she was born a fem and came out as a lesbian, ok I get that no problem there. then after time she has trans sexual surgery to become a man, yes? or no? my question then is after surgery to become a man did he/it still continue to see women and by seeing men did that mean she was then hetero? or as a man did he/it decide to be with other men. hey its an honest question, no need to get snarky

          • Oginikwe

            It is an honest question for some people so here goes . . .
            First of all, drop the “it” parts. That tells us that you fail to see these folks as people. It’s very rude to refer to people at “its.”
            Secondly, Bono was born a woman, attracted to women. She underwent surgery (sex reassignment surgery) and is now a man who is still attracted to women. Thus, the “T” as was pointed out.
            Third, in a nutshell, transgendered people identify with another gender’s behaviors, thoughts, etc. independent of their sexual orientation. Transsexuals identify with the gender that was not assigned to them at birth.

            There are many in-betweens in sexual behaviors and sexual identities when it comes to people–we’re not all just male/female physically and emotionally.

          • lilbear68

            once again side stepped and IMHO you cant answer it because even the sympathizers have no idea how to explain it
            is chaz a man now? im guessing as a result of surgery and hormone therapy chaz is a man. does chaz, as a man, find women sexually attractive now and if so does that make him a heterosexual man? and being a hetero sexual man now would the LBGT group kick him out for being normal?

          • Andrew

            He was L, now he’s T. That clear enough?

          • Number1Framer

            My favorite part was the sort of Ha-gotcha! attitude. You damn sympathizers fall for it every time…
            lol

          • Andrew

            As a straight guy, lesbians transitioning to straight men have absolutely no bearing on my sex life.

          • Number1Framer

            To be clear, I was parodying lilbear68’s post, not yours.

          • Andrew

            Yeah, I know.

          • Jin The Ninja

            chaz is a FTM man. sexual identity is not the same as gender identity.

            ‘sympathisers?’ uh you mean people who aren’t married to dual gender and sexual identities? you mean most other people in the world, who do not have victorian sexual politics entwined in their cultures? why don’t you speak to an actual trans person? or failing that (and if you don’t know any, i would question what kind of life you lead)- stick with the pronouns people use to describe themselves. if chaz says he’s a he, he’s a a HE. don’t make it complicated.

          • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

            are you a man now?

            or are you a disgusting piece of filth spewing hateful, ignorant bile about something that frightens you so deep to the core that you have no other recourse than to lob softballs at media branded “other” on a semi-anonymous internet comment thread in order to somehow make it through another day that is the hell of your existence?

            ÿ’m guessing the glaring errors in the premise of the questions “you’ve” asked indicates the latter. 100,000 whitetail deer hunters® can’t be wrong, after all

            do you, as a cis-insecure, find playing prison guard helps raise your ardor for your team?

            and being that you lack the sense to use duh interwebz to educate yourself, or ¡Dog Forbid!, the apparent means in meatspace to go out and enjoy the company of someone that does not circle jerk your confirmation bias, should we really take your honest word trolling seriously?

            It’s sad. ÿ had your jersey all ready to go.
            https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0207/9456/products/team_snarky_closeup_large.jpg?v=1365098411

            On the remote chance “you” have been honest with your “self”, feel free to refer to the following reference materials ÿ compiled for another “honest seeker of the truth”℠:
            http://disinfo.com/2014/04/chelsea-mannings-statement-legal-name-change/#comment-1366708243

            When you understand how you’ve failed at life this little game we play, we’ll talk more. (⌒▽⌒)

            Roses are red
            Violets are blue
            Why can’t people be colors too?

          • Jin The Ninja

            thank god/s/ess/dawkins someone said it.

          • lilbear68

            you don’t seem to mind your freedom of expression but when someone with another viewpoint expresses their it makes you foam at the mouth, typical hypocrisy

          • Jin The Ninja

            stupidity is not a difference of opinion. but if you think that is a noble exercise of free speech…

          • lilbear68

            once again its a freedom you gaystapo pigs don’t seem to understand, I can think, say or feel anything I want as long as you a**wipes are kept away from enacting the ‘thought police’ and ‘new speak’. again you love tolerance as long as its in line with your philosophy. anything else has you foaming at the mouth

          • Andrew

            Using the term “gaystapo” and then lecturing about tolerance is extremely hypocritical.

          • lilbear68

            its not me that offers to boycott establishments where the owner is in favor of traditional marriage.
            altho I have no problem with any adult being married to any other adult. traditional marriage is a right also and should be tolerated too and this is where you fail at being tolerant of others

          • Andrew

            I don’t claim to be tolerant of everything.

            Where your reasoning fails is that those who support marriage equality also support traditional marriage. They aren’t opposed to male/female marriages. The establishments you’re talking about are the ones openly advertising that they’re against same sex marriages. So they’re the intolerant ones, and intolerance of unreasonable intolerance is not hypocritical.

          • lilbear68

            again you forget its their right, right or wrong to support what ever they want and to be opposed to what ever they want. im sure they are against witch burnings, inquisitions and the ‘Chinese exclusion act’ as is their right. as long as they do no harm, as in physical attacks they have the right to conduct themselves as they will. again I point out its your own intolerance for others choices that are not in line with your philosophy

          • Andrew

            You’re really reaching, trying to portray those who oppose others’ right to same sex marriage–a right you claim to support, I might add–as more tolerant than those who are exercising their right to boycott such businesses, or businesses who advertise their support for such rights.

          • lilbear68

            hey boycott away, im all for it as is any groups right to speak or take action but so far evidence shows that your boycots don’t amount to a mosquito on an elephants a**

          • Andrew

            If you’re for same sex marriage and support the boycotts, as you claim, why don’t you join and maybe they’ll amount to more?

          • lilbear68

            im for any adult doing what ever he wants with another consenting adult. im not in step with the group i just believe in full rights for all adults. that includes doing any and all drugs
            but i don’t buy into some of the claims.
            altho there is some science recently that shows validity to the being ‘born that way’ and that it comes from chemical and hormonal imbalance while in utero. now then if it could be definitely proved that this was the case then that would say that being born gay is a birth defect. if this is the case then preventing this birth defect thru utero monitoring and hormonal/chemical supliments should be welcomed with open arms by the gay community. they always try to fall on the old saw ‘you think i chose this lifestyle’ would come to an end. as i said if this is true and can be proven do you think it would be accepted? im guessing it would not thusly re-inforcing the hypocracy. or not

          • Jin The Ninja

            trans =/= gay. and if we’re genetic mutations, how do you know we’re not the ‘intended’ mutation for the human race? hmm…

          • lilbear68

            there is no proof of the ‘gay gene’ there is some science showing the utero imbalance but then you use this to avoid the real point that is would you accept proof that its a preventable birth defect?

          • Jin The Ninja

            what makes sexual difference ‘abnormal’ if it occurs throughout nature, and is between consenting adults?
            if science discovered heterosexuality was leading to gross over-population and destruction of the planet- would you consent to sterilisation? to hormonal correction? what if sexual and gender difference were placed in a cultural context of normativity- and inclusion- like in many egalitarian cultures?
            would your pseudo-science have more validity or less?
            abandon your puritan-victorian sexual mores, or at least the narrow confines placed on your mind by their cultural dominance, and then we can talk.

          • lilbear68

            total side step, just take it as a what if if you can actually get past your hypocracy

          • Jin The Ninja

            copy/paste.

            it’s ‘hypocrisy;’ if you’re going to draw from your list of pre-written responses, at least auto-correct your spelling.

          • Jin The Ninja

            there exists far more potential in an argument about genetics.
            the rest is pseudo-science. and if hormones could be corrected, why don’t trans-folk turn ‘hetero’ during their transition?

          • Andrew

            Why should money be spent to prevent people from being born gay? Why should gay people support an end to homosexuality?

          • lilbear68

            total side step demonstrating your hypocracy.
            how bout if it was provided free?

          • Andrew

            I disagree with the foundation of your question–that homosexuality should be changed if it can be–and therefore don’t value it enough to answer it on it’s own terms.

            There’s nothing wrong with homosexuality, so people shouldn’t oppose gay people’s behavior. What’s hypocritical about that?

          • lilbear68

            again a side step demonstrating the hypocrisy.
            you would want that to prevent other birth defects spinal bifida, a club foot, in utero nutritional blindness. many birth defects are preventable and prevented. if this was proven to be a preventable birth defect you would not allow it? your hypocrisy and duality is monumental

          • Jin The Ninja

            people have nuanced opinions about things.
            sometimes a complex, multifaceted perspective is more useful than not. usually always.

            do you understand what the word, ‘duality’ means?
            because you’re using it incorrectly.

          • lilbear68

            ok and as I said youre out of debate now that you have chosen to resort to the grammar correction ploy. soon ill see the spelling and punctuation correction
            and ill add again a side step to avoid a straightforward answer
            but then you talk about nuanced opinions but you don’t allow me the same resorting to calling names and insulting

          • Jin The Ninja

            if you can’t relay the meaning of what you say with words, how do you expect others to understand them?

            on that note, your opinion is not nuanced, and that is the problem. gay as abnormal, gay rights as oppressive.

            *YAWN*

            it would have been much more nuanced had you expressed admiration for chelsea manning, but also a complicated sentiment to her transgendered identity. instead you do what you’ve done on every visit you’ve made to forum. made it about gay people boycotting baked goods. aren’t you bored YET? i am.

          • lilbear68

            but you did understand the post which proves my point
            but now you have become more than a little boring and tedious

          • Jin The Ninja

            no, i understand your agenda. which is the only thing you care to discuss, even though the thread was about the politics of propaganda.

          • Andrew

            I don’t see my stance on this issue as hypocritical or dualistic at all. I’m saying homosexuality is not a defect, birth or otherwise. It’s like red hair, abnormal but not immoral.

            Of course, redheads are prone to sunburns.

            If parents were able to medically prevent their children from being homosexual, I don’t think I’d try to stop them from doing so providing they paid for it themselves. But I would oppose government funding, as I think there are much more important things to spend money on.

          • lilbear68

            I never once made a moral judgment on this
            again youre sidestepping it to avoid a straightforward answer.
            if its shown to be a preventable birth defect

          • Jin The Ninja

            it hasn’t been, nor will it. because it isn’t hormonal. you need to understand actual biology and genetics and quit reading treatise from 1950.

          • lilbear68

            2012 the search for the gay gene is a failure but some studies show that the hormonal imbalance may be the cause
            2012 but then youre making a stretch based on emotions rather than what you can actually find if your willing to look

          • Jin The Ninja

            i await your peer-reviewed citations. in multitude.

          • lilbear68

            look for yourself unless your afraid of what you might find, coward

          • Jin The Ninja

            if you’ve read it it certainly exists right? if so, why not share with the class and we’ll put this debate to rest.

          • Andrew

            Why should I care what causes homosexuality?

          • lilbear68

            now your just boring

          • Andrew

            Why should I care if I bore you?

          • Jin The Ninja

            just to clarify i am not saying i think it is ONE gay gene that controls human sexuality. i am stating there a multitude of genetic and chromosomal factors at play. i don’t believe in the kind of myopic science that claims one total, basal, alchemical reduction to cause. or the science that claims one total, penutimate, holy grail panacea .

          • Andrew
          • Andrew

            What have I sidestepped?

          • Opposite Day

            If you think of homosexuality as a disease, then maybe you’d want a cure. Right?

          • Jin The Ninja

            i think of stupidity as a disease. but there is a cure. education.

          • Andrew

            I disagree. Stupidity is an inherent and inalienable human trait.

          • Jin The Ninja

            well in the context of all human history, you are probably right.
            but hopefully we can learn from our mistakes.

          • Andrew

            If the universe/multiverse is infinite, then our ignorance is infinite, no matter how much we learn.

          • Jin The Ninja

            in that i totally agree.
            but isn’t one of the ‘goals’ of humanity, to overcome our limitations, intellectual and metaphysical- in that the growth paradigm is also limitless.

          • Andrew

            Yep, no end to the struggling and the suffering.

          • Jin The Ninja

            lol;) i’d almost think you were buddhist, with that kind of response.

          • Oginikwe

            I prefer to think of those situations as adventures.

          • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

            On that possibility, can there be a beginning then?

          • Opposite Day

            That’s not necessarily true.. Ignorance can be thwarted by education. Stupidity, being the inability to learn and retain knowledge, cannot be cured so easily. I see what you did there, though. ;-)

          • Jin The Ninja

            lol comparing the chinese exclusion act, which was based on white supremacy, and a vocal minority calling for a boycott of a bakery- which is based on percieved ‘equality’ (so opposing perceived discrimination)… that is definition of stupid.

          • lilbear68

            cherry picking, but again in this country being stupid is a right you cant take away

          • Jin The Ninja

            so you’re pro rights of the stupid?

          • lilbear68

            im pro rights of any one including a**wipes like you

          • Jin The Ninja

            if i am an ‘asswipe,’ at least that doesn’t implicitly mean i am stupid. whereas you are defacto and by definition stupid.

            i am much more in favour of the rights of ‘asswipes’ than i am of the stupid.

          • Jin The Ninja

            i don’t ‘love’ tolerance, i hate morons.
            instead of making this article about chelsea manning, you made it about denigrating trans folk. if that’s what makes you hard, seek help.

          • lilbear68

            oooo rush me to the burn ward from that snappy comeback

          • Jin The Ninja

            copy/paste is the best retort you can muster?

          • Andrew

            There’s nothing hypocritical about criticizing error.

          • lilbear68

            just because you feel its wrong don’t necessarily make it wrong. again the gaystapo don’t run the country yet

          • Andrew

            Even though I’m straight I was called “fag” throughout much of grade school and violently assaulted a few times because I wasn’t athletic enough. So in that sense, yes it is wrong because I feel it’s wrong. More power to the “gaystapo.”

          • lilbear68

            aww boo hoo I guess no one else has ever suffered at the hands of bullies

          • Andrew

            Just the opposite, you asshole, millions and millions of people have suffered at the hands of bullies. That’s exactly why it’s wrong.

            You gonna call people who fought back against the Soviets and Nazis hypocrites next?

          • lilbear68

            I guess youre just to stupid to recognize ironic sarcasm
            maybe the bullies did more damage to your head than my previous estimate

          • Andrew

            What makes you think I didn’t recognize the sarcasm? It’s exactly what I called you an asshole.

          • lilbear68

            oooo get me to the burn ward from that snappy comeback
            heres mine, nuh uh you are
            too bad you have to resort to this it easily demonstrates youre out of debate and im sure will soon resort to spelling and grammar correction

          • Andrew

            Calling you an asshole wasn’t central to my argument, but if you have to pretend that’s all I wrote because your own comment was nothing but mockery, well, that’s exactly the same kind of projection you’ve based your bullshit argument on this morning.

            In other words, if you don’t like the heat, don’t start a fire.

          • Jin The Ninja

            in fairness, you could use a lesson in orthography and grammar mechanics.

          • lilbear68

            typical of when you have no further debate you decend to spelling, grammar and punctuation correction
            if I was writing my thesis id pay more attention but your response however pointless demonstrates that you understood the message and if the message is understood the medium matters not

          • Jin The Ninja

            you realise i didn’t actually correct your errors. and neither did andrew. you, obviously self-consciously, referred to them first.

            you have no point. is there an actual point to trolling?

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          • lilbear68

            flagged if only for the horrible spelling

          • Oginikwe

            It could use some lessons in behaving like a human being.

          • Jin The Ninja

            unfortunately, so could a large minority of the world.

          • Oginikwe

            “large minority”–lol. Is that a koan?

          • Jin The Ninja

            i’ve been told before i have an ‘eccentric’ phraseology. i also don’t want to sound too misanthropic, but my inclination was to say ‘moderate majority.’

          • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

            you don’t seem to mind your freedom of expression but when someone with another viewpoint expresses their it makes you foam at the mouth, typical hypocrisy

            Imma logs on to this interwebz thingie real quickie…
            make some funniez at duh peeple dat r scary!
            den 1der
            why none take me thinking thingies…
            something… something…

            It’s fascinating, really. ÿ guess the golden rule is just another santa claus, easter bunny, jesus christ, liberty, or whatever for The Memory Hole™.

            Dude, ÿ’m totally going to throw you a lifeline: research something called “mirroring”.

            Foam at the mouth, eh? Perhaps it was simply written at a higher grade level then you are capable of deciphering. ÿ am quite fond of complex sentence structures, often to the detriment of mÿ ease of readability scores. Maybe try converting text to speech, or saying it out loud to yourself? Either way: British Accent™ for the win.

            Actually, I’d be quite impressed if you could perform this part:

            or are you a disgusting piece of filth spewing hateful, ignorant bile about something that frightens you so deep to the core that you have no other recourse than to lob softballs at media branded “other” on a semi-anonymous internet comment thread in order to somehow make it through another day that is the hell of your existence?

            …with British Accent™ and foam.

            Then again, maybe something filtered in, and your pathetic sidestep deflections are all you have left. Have fun defending the freedom to be hateful and ignorant, bro. That sounds fun and totally ‘Merikan™.

            Whatevs.
            At this point,

            you’ve yet to pass
            the Turing Test™.
            Where Eugene at?

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          • Oginikwe

            I’m sorry, I thought you were sincere. Now I see you’re just an obtuse jerk. I won’t make that mistake again.

          • Jin The Ninja

            particularly funny that your screen name would fit right in, in a leather bear chat room. the bike avatar too. it’s all a bit too…
            contrived. almost seems… repressed?

          • http://voxmagi-necessarywords.blogspot.com/ VoxMagi

            The hard part for some folks is that they need a label. Whereas human sexuality is a spectrum…a huge vast shade of grey where clarity only exists at the fringes. I don’t feel hostility toward people who need structure and definition and easy to grasp labels…its part of human nature to quantify and then disregard something…after its been safely defined. Panic sets in when they deal with unknown quantities. I can accept that,,,but it does get tiresome coaxing people down from the cliff of “OMG! IF WE CAN’T DEFINE IT KILL IT WITH FIRE!”

          • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ
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          • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

            I was admittedly hasty in preparing that omelette…

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    a word from Chelsea should square away their doubts
    nothing aMerkins respect more than transsexual whistleblowers

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  • Mr B

    So initially, when: Manning, Adam Kokesh & Bowe Bergdahl all signed up to upset “liberal pinheads” and massacre “Sand N*ggers” in Bush’s Imperial “War on Terror”; they believed that by defying the largest global protest in Human history, they were onto a good thing?

    • Monkey See Monkey Do

      People can change, not just politically but also sexually as in Manning’s case.

    • Liam_McGonagle

      Not everyone popped out of the womb with a well-defined appreciation for the duplicity in public life. Some people had to piece it together slowly from their own experience.

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  • Apathesis

    When did he change his name?

    • BuzzCoastin

      that’s classified top secret

      • Apathesis

        You sure he’s not a bottom?

        • Jin The Ninja

          being trans is not the same as being ‘gay.’ gender difference is not sexual difference. i also personally find implication of gay sexual positions to be distasteful, and i am not even close to a prude.

          • Apathesis

            You’re not telling me anything I don’t already know.

            And furthermore, straight men can bottom for a woman with a strap-on. You telling me that is now considered ‘gay’?

          • Jin The Ninja

            i like how you raised the issue of pegging as if it was at all contextual to the conversation or the article.

            if you ‘already know’ – then demonstrate some deference to the subject.

            i am not upset, i found the comment un-subtle, distasteful and a bit derogatory.

            low hanging fruit (oh wait could that be a sexual pun?) aren’t known for their taste.

    • Mr B

      ‘On August 22, 2013, the day after sentencing, Manning’s attorney issued a press release to the Today show announcing that she is a female, and asked that she be referred to by her new name (Chelsea) and feminine pronouns …’

      ~ h**ps://en.wikipedia.*rg/wiki/Chelsea_Manning#Gender_transition

  • Number1Framer

    So from the whole interview, I gather that one of Manning’s routine tasks was boiling everything going on in Iraq down to a single sentence pieced together from info provided by embedded journalists previously vetted as likely to produce ‘favorable’ reporting. I remember a scene in the documentary “Outfoxed” where a former employee reveals that an entire days coverage on Fox News is based on a memo a few sentences long that comes down from Murdoch or Ales. Then the shills go to work pounding away on the days one or two talking points for 20 hours or so. I think this post is also a good opportunity to share my favorite thing I’ve ever seen on Twitter (luckily I screencapped it since it no longer ‘exists’):

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      Bill O’Reilly, May 15th, 2003:

      “So, Talking Points urges the Pentagon to stop the P.R. dance and impose strict rules of conduct for the Iraqi people to follow. Law abiding Iraqis want that. It’s only the gangsters and the fanatics who don’t. Shoot looters to kill, and aim well.

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  • Andrew

    There’s no evil in your heart? None at all?

    If there is, do you always defeat it?

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      I never consciously treat innocent people badly and have immense self-control.

      ‘Grossing over $222 million total worldwide, the film [Farenheit 9/11] was the highest grossing documentary of all time,…’ ~ h**ps://en.wikipedia.*rg/wiki/Fahrenheit_9/11#Commercial_reception

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