• Oginikwe

    It’s not that they have plans as much as they are not constrained by any rules, norms, or notions of fair play. The ends justify the means all in the pursuit of profits.

    • Anarchy Pony

      And when good people make plans, their groups get infiltrated and dissolved.

      • Mr B

        Not that good people ever hold grudges: *bends over* “The police were only doing their difficult job, under difficult circumstances.”

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    • Liam_McGonagle

      When people talk about ‘good’ vs. ‘evil’, I get the sense that they mean to draw a sharp contrast between short-term satisfaction of the many (i.e., ‘good’) versus that of the few (i.e., ‘evil’).

      But when you try to mobilize a constituency for political action, you will find no one more ready to take desperate, even violent measures to benefit the few than the masses themselves.

      I suppose that’s inevitable in a society whose philosophy is so backward looking. They don’t really have any ideals to strive for, and they don’t really have any engagement with their neighbors such as would allow them to truly trust one another. The deference accorded to the few is the only thing giving their society any coherence.

      So I think that evil people will always win because the masses have no concept of themselves. It’s not that the few are necessarily any more clever or industrious or talented than the rest of us, it’s that we wouldn’t know what to do with ourselves without exploitation.

      • Ted Heistman

        Its the “master/Slave dialectic” playing itself out.

    • Ted Heistman

      All kinds of poor people shoplift and do immoral things, cheat, back stab each other, con people, commit acts of violence and drunken depravity.

      I mean, sure there are criminal elites in high places, but their are lots of criminals in low places too. I think what holds society together is the middle class. People who work, obey the law, pay taxes.

      • Oginikwe

        The video addressed primarily elites. But, yes, in the absence of inclusion into society, poor people do immoral things and it’s not just poor people who “shoplift and do immoral things, cheat, back stab each other, con people, commit acts of violence and drunken depravity.” Plenty of people of many social classes to these things.

        I think that one of foundations of our society is the poor and poverty classes because they do all the shitty jobs that none of us want to do. I pick enough green beans in a summer to know that’s not a job I want full time. Being a maid in a hotel, a waitstaff person, a butcher in a slaughterhouse, and many other jobs really suck but they keep the wheels turning. A middle manager at Walmart? Not so important.

        • Ted Heistman

          well, that’s a pretty charitable view. Really the reason many people aren’t included in society is because they are selfish assholes. Its a nice sentiment to think that all poor people are noble. I would say that in terms of the working poor that is largely true, but there is also a criminal underclass. I think there is probably some parallel between the criminal underclass and criminal elites. Its a strange phenomenon. Veblen pointed this out in his “theory of the Leisure class” For example, (this was back in the turn of the 20th century)he pointed out that people who solve disputes with fisticuffs into adulthood are found both in the underclass and the upper-class. He also correlated it with the habit of carrying walking sticks that double as weapons, seen today as the so called “pimp cane.”

          Andrew Jackson was a prime example of “Gentlemen” who would fight duels and beat people with his cane, earning him the moniker of “old hickory”

          Probably what it is is that a certain anti-social type of person, at a large enough economy of scale, ceases to be a criminal, and becomes an aristocrat. At their base, they are the same barbaric type person. People in the middle enjoy many more socializing forces. Veblen refers to these people as the “industrial classes” i.e. working people.

  • Mr B

    ‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’
    ~ Edmund Burke

    E.g. “Don’t hate the playa, hate the game.”

  • Dovette

    RT is a crock of shit. EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE A FUCKING PLAN.

    • Ted Heistman

      If you have no plan, you get worked into somebody else’s plan. Makes sense to me.

      • Dovette

        Exactly. Those who don’t plan and set goals just moan about other people instead of blaming themselves. I have weekly, monthly and daily plans/goals. I’m not going to rely on the government to look after me or I’ll be working till i’m 80, taxed higher than any generation before me and will receive the smallest pension. Fuck that. Yet this guy and RT just want you coiled up hating people you will never meet. It’s stupidity.

  • Apathesis

    Hahahahaha. Skeletor’s Lawyer. Awesome.

  • Ted Heistman

    Do “good people” buy lottery tickets? “Good people” must = dumb asses.

    ” Everywhere that slave-morality gains the ascendancy, language shows a tendency to approximate the significations of the words “good” and “stupid.”

    • Mr B

      ‘As for the virtuous poor, one can
      pity them, of course, but one cannot possibly admire them. They have
      made private terms with the enemy, and sold their birthright for very
      bad pottage. They must also be extraordinarily stupid.’

      ~ Oscar Wilde, convicted and imprisoned for two years’ hard labour…died a destitute alcoholic in Paris at the age of 46.

  • Ted Heistman

    Good people=people with no plan. Brilliant. Why would anyone want to identify with the masses? I mean I can see having empathy for people being taken advantage of, but to be inspired by such people?

    I see these elites, getting together, to cooperate for mutual self interest, its really hard to fault them. It makes sense from their perspective. What gets me is how easy it is for them, and what lack of resistance they face. I have to conclude that “the masses” are pretty pathetic.

  • Ted Heistman

    I don’t believe in any type of “grass roots” solution to inequality. I think maybe people in “the trunk” might have some ability. Middle class people, Small business owners, people like that. Probably immigrant groups, like Asians, Latinos will play a prominant role in creating more equality, in the coming years. People who work and put their kids through college.

    I think having a large prosperous middle class, is a barometer of health in society.

    People working for close to minimum wage in the service sector or unemployed don’t have enough leverage to do anything, even in the case of a general strike, when all is said and done, will go back to “working for the man.”

    Probably some regions of the US, certain cities, metropolitan areas, will be able to build a more just community on a local level. I don’t see the whole US being fixed. Its in decline.

    I predict a mass exodus, to Europe, certain, Latin American countries like Costa Rica, and SE Asia in the coming years.

  • Ted Heistman

    By this logic “evil people” have must have better teeth too because they remember to floss.

  • Hadrian999

    trying to get ahead by being “good” is like trying to get rich playing in a casino. playing by the rules someone else sets makes you prey

  • Simon Valentine

    there’s a difference between building words to touch what is
    modular validity
    the [lack of ]soundness of which is irrelevant

    and using words to mechanically or mysterious alter what is

    Eureka! is a trap
    witches float
    therefore silver boils by the future entropy of contrived Lies
    all so valid-as-can-be

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