Marty and Michael in Math Magic Land

Is there an Occulted Numeric Language Embedded Within Our Culture?

Via Midwest Real


A visual representation of Pi to 10,000 digits.

I shan’t bullshit you my friends, I suck at math. If you forced me to do algebra with a gun to my head, the event could only end with my landlord having PTSD. I really wish that wasn’t the case, because numbers truly do fascinate me.Somehow, we can manipulate these immutable, immortal concepts in such a way that we’re able to extrude complicated objects into this world. Just take a look at all the amazing feats of engineering and architecture around you at this very moment that you’re taking for granted. It’s truly amazing, almost magical stuff. And it’s all there, at least in part, because of what we do with numbers.

Now that we’ve established that my mind is a burrito of mathematical ineptness and ignorant awe, perhaps I’m extra susceptible to being manipulated into being mesmerized by witnessing simple patterns, or mathematical slight of hand (we’ll get to that later). But, I’ll say it anyway- I think numbers might be more than hard fast units of measurement.

But please, dear god, don’t take it from me.

Pythagoras and his legendary school (which went on long after his death in various forms) were utterly obsessed with numbers to the point of near worship. Pythagoras himself (supposedly) famously said “all is number,” whatever that means. The great eccentric scientist Nikola Tesla was straight bonkers over the number “3.” He’d do crazy shit like walk around the block three times before entering a building and ask that his napkin be folded three times before being served. He also said, “If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the universe.” Sir Isaac Newton spent more time studying a secret code within the bible than he did the laws of physics. 

If these were your run-of-the-mill underpass-dwelling schizoids, that’d be one thing. But, these are men we’re taught to revere as pillars of intellectual and scientific prowess. Is it possible that they were on to something?   

Clearly this is a subject that’s very controversial, but if you open your mind, just to the possibility of numbers being a living breathing creative language, beyond just a rigid tool we use to express the hard fast concepts of the world, at the very least becomes a much more interesting place. 

My guest, Marty Leeds is an author and researcher who’s deeply entrenched in just this kind of thinking. He makes insane videos showing correlations between words, numbers and esoteric concepts in a way that’s pretty goddamn intriguing. So much so, that they’ve been the cause of at least one confirmed case of spontaneous head explosion.

You can learn more about Marty and is work at his website, his Facebook and, of course his Youtube page

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15 Comments on "Marty and Michael in Math Magic Land"

  1. Gjallarbru | Jul 14, 2014 at 8:08 am |

    In the masonic Memphis-Misraïm ritual, It is said that 3, 5, and 7 are the fundation of the temple of wisdom of Egypt…

    • Echar Lailoken | Jul 14, 2014 at 11:16 am |

      3,5,and 7 are almost universally “sacred”/special numbers/symbols in spirituality/mysticism/religion.

      • Gjallarbru | Jul 14, 2014 at 12:12 pm |

        Yeah, the ritual does go on as to why. And Memphis-Misraïm members are fond of saying that Free-Masonry has no exclusive knowledge. They are conviced the knowledge of Free-Masonry is universal and found in many cultures and traditions, in many forms. The rite is the only one that I know that really pushes as hard the idea of exploring outside Masonry, for that very reason.

    • Simon Valentine | Jul 14, 2014 at 2:57 pm |

      trickery, pragmatism, and completion

      • Gjallarbru | Jul 14, 2014 at 6:29 pm |

        Simon, I’m never sure if I understand you, but keep it up, I like it.

        • Simon Valentine | Jul 14, 2014 at 8:10 pm |

          these associations i have encountered with numbers

          speak them i do
          3 is magical trickery that even the simple may use, mmhmm
          5 is natural and useful, a count of fingers or toes it is
          7 is completion, all days in one week
          know not why or how reckoned these ways, i speculate
          this form of association is not sole, but remember it i do
          perhaps in attempt to preserve the truth that is arbitrary they were and remain, perhaps not
          possible that to relate with divinity they are, with four, that is
          3 and 5 being each one different, one being mortal the other being impossible, and so seven then explains or is that there cannot be only one four

          nine was once war, but no longer
          modular principles of ancient teachings cloud the mind
          even today the obedience of many is to but a few dead
          all is prepared to change now
          yet once again the answer is secret
          faith and trust in persons it has not
          and know people for the illusion they are, we do

          • Gjallarbru | Jul 14, 2014 at 9:39 pm |

            Your words speak to a part of me. I know it, yet I have forgotten it. My thanks for responding…

  2. Liam_McGonagle | Jul 14, 2014 at 9:27 am |

    Mathematical operations provide an illusion of power and precision because they focus very narrowly on (what appear to be) stable, predictable and discrete material qualities. But they do so at the cost of wider context.

    • Simon Valentine | Jul 14, 2014 at 2:56 pm |

      mathematics is an adjective?

      it’s the bijection (or if one is lucky, it’s a more complex project) that’s problematic

      hard to point at the moon while on that bull though, aint it?

      “i follow the closing-the-gap prophecy-paradox”, she said

  3. Amana Mission | Jul 14, 2014 at 9:35 am |

    The math is intriguing, but the theology infantile….and the Tetragrammaton being interpreted as a construct of pi is absolutely laughable…that’s NOT pi, although ignorant evagelists would conflate it if it suits the dogma. The letter is heh, equivalent to h in English, whereas pi would correspond to pe/fe in Hebrew, at least phoenetically.
    Another brilliant mind wasted on simpleton eschatology.

    • Simon Valentine | Jul 14, 2014 at 2:27 pm |

      perhaps simple but not necessarily as wrong as it is incomplete (and one of the things that regularly causes physical illness symptoms, usually a headache)

      i do agree that algebraic faith is not faith at all
      so on that note

      i imagine you’ve seen the “pi = four” take on non-convergent infinite ingress?
      also i imagine you’re familiar with the use of h as regards the “smallest physical unit”, the Planck unit?

      the association between pi = 4 and h is by no means a new or complete endeavor. the most complete iterations involve laminations of data too complex for the human form to manipulate or comprehend. whether that is true, false, seeming, coincidence, or a circular relation can’t be changed.

      doth the shadows argue their positions?
      do the colors argue amongst themselves to decide or keep an order?

      who cares
      i have crap to do

      that a unit square and a unit circle “cannot be the same because there is no such infinity as would be required” isn’t my problem nor is it my impartiality

      that a sphere and a plane are genus zero
      is it yourn?

    • Simon Valentine | Jul 14, 2014 at 3:06 pm |

      on a side note, i am curious about your monicker “Amana”

      is it coincidentally related to Amarna, as in the Amarna Letters?

      the “origin” of “written language” is a curious problem

    • Marty Leeds | Jul 14, 2014 at 3:38 pm |

      Good sir, you should investigate this more. The Hebraic Tetragrammaton sums to 26 in Hebrew gematria and this translates to LORDGOD in the English text, which again, sums to 26. The Tetragrammaton, though symbolized in several different ways, has been symbolized as Pi7 Pi 7. You can easily see this on wikipedia: After listening to a one hour podcast and then level an accusation that the correlation is absolutely laughable is laughable in itself, especially when I clearly proclaim in the podcast that this takes a deeper investigation. Oh well, 3 books and 50 some lecturers explaining this stuff is probably just all a bunch of hooey. Cheers.

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  4. imSuperCereal | Nov 1, 2014 at 2:02 pm |

    why in the hell is his book so goddamn expensive?

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