Weekly Poll Update: ‘What current issue is most important?’

Old Poll

Our first weekly poll was a relative success. In light of our soon-to-be released Boredom, we asked your opinions on one of the issues raised in the film. It seems the majority of you agree with director Albert Nerenberg’s conclusion. The results are below:

Are Smart Phones Making Us More Bored?

  • Yes (69%, 121 Votes)
  • No (31%, 54 Votes)

Total Voters: 175

Poll

New Poll

This week’s poll is comparatively longer: “What current issue is most important?” For each answer (except Immigration and Guns rights), we have a documentary that addresses said issue. I’ve linked them, if any of you are interested.

· Climate Change – Greedy Lying BastardsUnacceptable Levels, Into the Cold

· Overuse of chemicals and plastics – Tapped, Unacceptable Levels

· Education – Boredom, Equation of Life, Journey of the UniverseDrawing with Mark

· Disappearance of Bees – Bee People, Vanishing of the Bees

· NSA/Government Surveillance – War on Whistleblowers

· Corporate Corruption – Koch Brothers Exposed, Greedy Lying Bastards, Mobilize

· Immigration

· Economy (in general) – In Debt We Trust

· Military-industrial complex – Unmanned: America’s Drone Wars, Whittle: The Jet Pioneer, Iraq for Sale: The War Profiteers

· Gun rights

· Gay rights – The Topp Twins: Untouchable Girls

· Torture and Government Conspiracy – Doctors of the Dark Side

· Religion – American Jesus, Exorcist in the 21st Century

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  • Oginikwe

    I have to go with government corruption because that impacts every other issue you have posted.

    • Echar Lailoken

      I wonder if it’s complacency and/or a lack of urgency that feeds this corruption?

      • Cortacespedes

        Sadly, it’s probably money.

        And I shouldn’t have typed ‘probably’.

        • Echar Lailoken

          Does greed override a sense of urgency to improve for the greater good?

          Has government compartmentalizing engendered a sense of complacency?

          Has a sterilized life, softly suggested by social corrals, rendered the masses toothless but hungry for money?

          • Cortacespedes

            Amongst the politically powerful, yep. Just look around you now.

            Being “fed” and “entertained” fosters the complacency, as does the cynicism.

            Oddly, this ‘culture’ seems to have taken the seven deadly sins and transformed them into the “7 blessed virtues”. No, I do not believe that everyone is motivated by these “virtues”, in fact, I believe few truly are. But because “wealth” and power tend to attract an unscrupulous set of “disciples” we are being led conned into believing that these things equal a successful life.

            It can certainly be combated, don’t get me wrong. I am not the cynic my comment might suggest; I am merely stating what I believe to be the crux of the matter.

            Now, how best to deal with it? Drop out as much as you can. This façade can only be maintained for so long.

          • Echar Lailoken

            What I wonder is how far out does one have to drop before they look up and only see assholes? Or is it percieved by them as looking down, and wondering why everyone is upside down and bare assed? Could some benefit from telling the cliched joke, my eyes are right here?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZQKhA36q7Q

          • ersatz

            you know echar…i’d always found it interesting that jim morrision’s dad,george stephen morrison,was the commander of the u.s naval forces involved in the gulf of tonkin incident in 64..the catalyst in the vietnam war escalation. which is now considered,a straight up fabrication.

            but hey..the ptb love the fake narratives..as they’ve proven to be quite effective,historically. thanks for the reminder.

          • Echar Lailoken

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqeQCGRTXHY

            You’re right. It’s all a sinister plot. Protect your precious bodily fluids.

          • Number1Framer

            sssshhhhh….(whispering) they’re gonna put you in the FIFA camp if you keep saying these things…

          • Echar Lailoken

            FIFA camps are weak sauce compared to the Russian goulash. I heard tell of programs to bathe the ethnics.

            Seriously… in the nearly unreleased SMiLe album by the Beach Boys they talk about the vegetables that go into the Russian Goulash.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LECquYcMFUw

            And here’s the song where they sing about the programs to bathe the ethnics. They stepped right out on there very first album admitting their sinister plot.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3kGYPppgA

          • Number1Framer

            Yes, the illuminati just love rubbing it right in our stupid faces every chance they get. What good would a secret plot be if it was a secret….

          • Adam’s Shadow

            The guy was a living contradiction, and the sixties was a time for the archetypal youth rebellion against the older generation. Morrison hated the military and all authority with a passion, probably due in large part to his deep-seated daddy issues (see “The End”).

          • ersatz

            regardless of his supposed daddy issues.. fact is,many have already alluded to the fact that much of the hippie movement was nurtured by the cia back then,supplying the psychedelics and entertainment,in an effort to derail and distract the anti war movement.

            all while the war being fought,was based on the lie that jim’s dad was directly involved with…while he becomes a hippie rock n roll guru superstar,in a band (named after aldous huxley’s mescaline inspired ‘the doors of perception’) crooning and placating the drugged hippie masses.

            yeah..i’d say that’s an amazing coincidence that jim wound up distracting at home, at a time when his dad needed it the most,and leave it at that..as i’ve already digressed off the topic of the thread.

          • Echar Lailoken

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUJdfmFVcMk

            Sorry to burst your gnostic™ Media bubble, but…

            The song was Jim Morrison’s reaction to the Vietnam War and the way that conflict was portrayed in American media at the time.

            Lines such as “Breakfast where the news is read/ Television children fed/ Unborn living, living dead/ Bullets strike the helmet’s head” concern the way news of the war was being presented in the living rooms of ordinary people.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unknown_Soldier_%28song%29

          • ersatz

            oh the info’s has been around for a long time. his dad played an historic role in the scheme of things. simple as that.

            plus,i’d imagine the video would’ve been tough to follow while trippin on acid.

          • Echar Lailoken

            My dad worked for the phone company.
            Guess what? I don’t.
            SPOOKY!!!

            It’s a promo for an album. Meaning it was intended for the music company. This is pre MTV. It’s highly doubtful, much like this narrative that you are attempting to espouse, that the music industry people were tripping out while watching it.

          • ersatz

            that’s just an awful comparison,thanks. you should’ve just posted another doors video.

          • Echar Lailoken

            Ermagerd…

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmKpUyIAqok

            Too late, your precious bodily fluids have been compromised!

          • Juan

            Damn, I knew it!!!

          • Oginikwe

            You are assuming that the psychedelics were a distraction. If anything, it was the psychedelics that fueled the introspection needed for the wide swaths of social change that came during that era.

          • ersatz

            i’d say the culmination of sex,the music and the drugs made for plenty of distractions during that tumultuous time.

            the cia’s interest in research and experiments w/ lsd like mk-ultra,mind control are well documented.

            so why exactly would the cia want to help fuel such social change as a result of introspection?…were the hippies a cohesive and effective anti-war movement during vietnam,in retrospect?

          • Oginikwe

            Unlike the sex, music, and drugs now? Add to that gaming which eats up huge swaths of people’s diversion time as well as Facebook?

            These things are complicated and not as simplistic as you seem to think. America was fine with fighting in Vietnam until the draft was instituted and the fair-haired sons of the upper and middle classes could be drafted. That is probably the biggest factor in bringing that military action to an end. This was the first time that Americans wholesale began to refuse military service and be very vocal about it. In questioning that, people began to question other things such as the social structures in sexism and racism in barring people from opportunities. For example, some medical schools had quotas against: only so many women, so many Jews, and forget it if you were a person of color. Anti-miscegenation laws weren’t ruled unconstitutional until 1967, for God’s sake. People began to look at these things in a new way and most of those people questioning these things were not status quo happy middle class folks but their children who were constantly on the move, tuning in and dropping out.

          • Echar Lailoken

            My heart, gut, whatever is telling me that the distractions these days are coming in the guise of awareness. Or rather the overabundance of fear laden what if phantoms. Also the penchant to give near omnipotent power to three letter organizations.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq8nQOhZ3u8

          • Juan

            Up vote for the Uriah Heep reference. For me, it reminds both of the those 70’s vans with wizards painted on the sides. I think I even remember seeing this very album cover in the side of a Van. Of corse, there is also the Dickens reference.

          • Echar Lailoken

            Wizards painted on vans are sadly missing these days.

          • Oginikwe

            Feel the fear–do it anyway. It’s the only way to get through the looking glass.

          • Adam’s Shadow

            I find it highly unlikely that Jim Morrison was a secret CIA agent there to placate the masses with sex, drugs, and rock n’ roll, just because his dad was a top Navy Admiral and part of the Gulf of Tonkin; Morrison was just too unstable a personality. Nothing in his personal history indicates he had any intelligence contacts.

            I also don’t think LSD ended up being a useful tool for social control, despite Operation ARTICHOKE and MK-Ultra; if anything, those programs just showed the intelligence community that LSD was good for initial disorientation, but its effects were too unpredictable for any actual “mind control.” If you’ve ever taken acid, this is pretty obvious. In addition, LSD was made completely illegal by 1968; if the CIA wanted it to control people, why was it made illegal? Was this supposed to be some sort of “forbidden fruit” type of psychology? I’m not buying it. The establishment has developed much better, legal drugs for controlling people: Valium, Xanax, SSRIs, etc. And of course, that old standby that slowly killed Morrison, alcohol.

          • Andrew

            Introspection is flawed.

          • Oginikwe

            Your introspection doesn’t seem flawed: you seem to see things quite clearly. Why would you assume that other people can’t do the same?

          • Andrew

            Most of my self-knowledge has been gained from others. As, ironically, were most of the lies I used to believe about myself. Evidence made the difference.

          • Oginikwe

            That’s the problem–few look up to see the assholes. They only look sideways and/or down which brings on all that horizontal hostility and kicking of the poor, railing against “welfare queens,” etc.

          • Echar Lailoken

            What If an entity wears the drop out like a badge and has eyes attuned for assholes? However can they see eye to eye with others who have chose not to delve? Could the deep delver become Delian in hopes of grasping a pearl?

          • Oginikwe

            Well. Isn’t that the whole point of awareness?

          • Echar Lailoken

            To wear a chip, like a good guy badge?

          • Oginikwe

            No, to be aware of where the real power is instead of looking down and across.

          • Echar Lailoken

            You got it. Thank you 😀

          • Andrew

            What if an asshole drops out?

          • Echar Lailoken

            There’s a good chance of that, but when they emerge for air, will they still be?

          • Andrew

            I’ve read that the easiest way out of the Drama Triangle is from the Persecutor position.

          • Echar Lailoken

            Thanks for the reference, very interesting.

            In some ways this fits what I am thinking of. Because a person sacrafices so much for this way of life that they have chosen, they emerge with accusatory eyes that give credence to their sacrafices.

            Hmmm, something is missing.

          • Andrew

            I don’t think its a sterilized life and soft suggestions, I think it’s a militarized police force pointing guns at us telling us we need to work for and give the owners money in order to obtain the basics of survival.

          • Echar Lailoken

            I’ve not experienced guns pointed, well at one time in my life. But that’s when I lived a lfestyle that attracted trouble.

        • Oginikwe

          Money = power. It’s all about the power over other people.

    • http://www.thecinematika.com The Cinematika

      You’re right. A lot of the issues I listed directly or indirectly impact each other.

  • ersatz

    if ‘climate change’ tops the poll,it’ll be an great example of how effectively it has diverted attention away from the murderous m.i.c and police/surveillance state future.

    “don’t be concerned about THAT…be concerned about THIS” —msm

    • Echar Lailoken

      If a person is prone to black and white thinking, they may say just the opposite. That police/surveillance is a distraction from climate change obstacles. However, an intelligent person may understand that there are many obstacles that we all can tackle.

      • ersatz

        but what ‘crisis’ narrative has been echoed most by msm?…

        i’d say,hands down it’s been ‘climate change’ for yearsss.. no?…and why do you think that’s the case,echar?

        it’s because corporate owned mainstream media is always there to help w/ prompting the public what to be concerned about. the topic of climate change has been a constant.

        why do you think there’s even university research being done examining what specific term ‘climate change’ or ‘global warming’ generates more of a reaction & concern?

    • Andrew

      I voted for the bees.

      • ersatz

        oh,don’t be concerned about that.science/tech has already been preparing robobees™ to fill in for the colonies collapsed by the bayer pesticides…with the added bonus of providing surveillance.

        • Andrew

          I’ll bet they do better at the surveilling than the pollinating.

  • misinformation

    All else follows education…or in most places, compulsory government schooling.

  • Aipeed Teaitchse

    Essentially every issue on here can be connected to the M.I.C.

    • Jin The Ninja

      that’s the way i voted, personally.

  • Woobniggurath

    These voluntary media site “polls” are crap-ola. I really hope this is not the direction Disinfo is headed in. An esoterical Buzzfeed?

    • Number1Framer

      I was actually just having a discussion an hour or so ago about how this site seems to be conspicuously lacking in esoteric material as of late. (Thad McCracken’s terrible last few sub-sophomoric name calling whine-diatribes not withstanding). So…just another ‘alt’ news aggregator then?

      • Woobniggurath

        Perhaps eccentric is a better word for Disinfo’s approach thus far.

      • Andrew

        Until you submit some esoteric articles, yes, this is just another ‘alt’ news aggregator.

      • http://www.thecinematika.com The Cinematika

        Feel free to come through with some of your own content. I’m open to more contributions.

        • Number1Framer

          In the aforementioned discussion we hashed over the possibility of collaborating on some work to submit here. Problem is time – I work 9-5 plus run an art studio out of home. There’s been pieces I’ve wanted to write, but the time involved in the research needed to produce something I can stand by is beyond what I can accomplish in a 24 hour day (hence the collaboration). Someone may be getting in touch in the coming weeks with a proposal.

          • http://www.thecinematika.com The Cinematika

            That would be great. What kind of topics are you interested in, by the way? I tend to write about what I’m interested in (weird news, cinema, history), but I can always be on the lookout for different things. Especially, if you think there’s a solid audience for it.

        • Number1Framer

          Also, we were wondering if disinfo is a paying gig?

          • http://www.thecinematika.com The Cinematika

            It is not, which why I think it’s hard to find solid and steady contributors. But, as you’ve seen with other contributors, it’s a nice way to promote your own stuff, so you could always tack on something at the end about your art studio.

      • Mr Grim

        Yeah, my initial arrival here was from an esoteric POV, having bought/read “The Book of Lies” and then come a-looking for more in that vein.

        I didn’t mind at all that the site was rather broad ranging in scope than just esoteric/magick type stuff, as I’m a bit of a magpie for knowledge outside of the (perceived) mainstream, or at least mainstream perspective, but more along esoteric lines would certainly not be unwelcome.

    • http://www.thecinematika.com The Cinematika

      Your criticism is noted. It was my way of getting the community to interact, while trying to promote some of our material. But, no, not an esoterical Buzzfeed. You won’t be seeing quizzes any time soon.

      • Woobniggurath

        It seems to me that this site’s community interacts well, in a scale which it is possible to stay abreast of and with a level of civility which looks like the Japanese imperial court when compared with the horror which is the rest of the ‘nets.

        • Woobniggurath

          If we were to ever see hundreds of replies per post I would be long gone. This site is a sanctuary.

        • Mr Grim

          ^This.

          Even though folks here (obviously) have clashes and whatnot, the place descends into outright frothing, never-concede-a-point shit-flinging hostility and abuse far less than the intermawebs taken as a whole.

          Given the many viewpoints and polarities involved (e.g. no shortage of vocal diehard atheists AND spiritual/magick/religious seekers, just as one example), that borders on the miraculous at times.

          And even when it does descend into monkey-brain poo-throwing, it’s usually at least a little entertaining, and often quite educational to boot. 😉

          • http://www.thecinematika.com The Cinematika

            I definitely agree with you. I didn’t mean to imply there was a lack of interaction, I just wanted to directly pose questions to readers. It’s interesting to see what you guys think, anyway. There’s obviously a huge mixture of concerns and preoccupations, given the current poll status.

            But please, don’t think we’re going to become a BuzzFeed clone, that would be ridiculous.

          • Mr Grim

            All cool all fine from my POV, re: polls etc. to get more of a feel for the way things lay around here. (FWIW I wasn’t thinking it’d become some kind of BuzzFeed clone – didn’t see it that way at all.)

        • http://www.thecinematika.com The Cinematika

          It’s true. The polls seem to be popular, though. So I’ll probably keep toying with them.

  • Andrew

    Six people voted for immigration?

    • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

      If we send all the white people back to Europe where they belong, maybe then America can go back to being great!

      • Echar Lailoken

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-RVWLw-7SE

        The sign said “America love it or leave” well has it really come to that?

        And beside, I don’t want to and you can’t make me love

        I’ve got too many friends, that have she’d their blood,

        I’ve got too many relatives here born on this land

        So you can’t make me leave

        I say this is my county and you can’t make me leave

        You can’t make me love the way you treat me

        And you can’t make me love the way you beat me.

  • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

    Personally, I chose the economy in general.

    Our fucked up infinite growth machine is basically why every other problem on this list exists, and why we can’t seem to competently deal with them.

    • http://www.thecinematika.com The Cinematika

      I chose the economy as well.

      • https://twitter.com/anti_euclidean ÿ

        YOU VOTE IN YOUR OWN POLL!?!?!

        WHAT ABOUT TEH ZCIENCE!!!

        • http://www.thecinematika.com The Cinematika

          Well, shit. I want to participate too.