Why Even Deniers Should Care About Climate Change

Abby Martin reports on a climate change rally that drew hundreds of thousands of activists to New York City over the weekend, highlighting the science behind the movement and the need to stop looking at the problem as a partisan issue.

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15 Comments on "Why Even Deniers Should Care About Climate Change"

  1. Liam_McGonagle | Sep 26, 2014 at 12:38 pm |

    This is not about reasons and rationality.

    • BuzzCoastin | Sep 26, 2014 at 12:50 pm |

      there’s a surprise

      • Liam_McGonagle | Sep 26, 2014 at 1:01 pm |

        My only possible addition to your comment is that:

        I feel most people feel that deniers are incapable of rationality. I don’t think so. In one way, they may actually have more highly developed powers of reason than the accepters.

        It really takes more effort to swim against the tide, if you get my point.

        • Michael416 | Sep 26, 2014 at 2:16 pm |

          I agree that skepticism is necessary and should be encouraged in a free-thinking society, but isn’t the scientific evidence on climate change pretty clear?

          • Michael416 | Sep 26, 2014 at 2:38 pm |

            At any rate Earth will continue to be around long after humankind has withered away. All of human history is nothing compared to the millions of millennia of the universe.

          • i’d say it plumbs the depths of uncertain questions in science. But uncertainty is the real thing that is not allowed. must always choose a side or you are a truly crazy person.. right?

          • Michael416 | Sep 26, 2014 at 4:00 pm |

            Yes. Unfortunately it is easy to fall into a herd mentality where one is compelled to either join one group or the other.

          • Jonas Planck | Sep 26, 2014 at 4:18 pm |

            Not if you decide to believe that neither group actually exists!

          • Karl W. Braun | Sep 27, 2014 at 3:42 am |

            Here are some of the many reasons that climate scientists have offered to explain the seventeen year pause in average global temperatures: http://c3headlines.typepad.com/.a/6a010536b58035970c01a511fbc7ee970c-pi

          • Liam_McGonagle | Sep 27, 2014 at 9:33 am |

            It is, but many, many people would prefer to die with their illusions intact than to live in a different world.

            I’m not condoning their behavior, or holding it up as an acceptable model. I’m just explaining why they will kill the rest of us–not out of malice or stupidity, but out of an aesthetic sensibility.

        • Jonas Planck | Sep 26, 2014 at 2:17 pm |

          Yes, they are truly pioneers, brave explorers of the unplumbed grey area between courage and stupidity. Here’s a spoiler for you: Within thirty years, the very same people now telling us that climate change is a hoax will be exploiting the unpleasant results of climate change to seize resources and annex foreign countries. Soon, they will go from “it isn’t happening” to “we have to take drastic measures to save ourselves from it!” so fast it will make your head spin. Enjoy your perpetual state of war.
          It’s easy to deny that gradual changes are occurring, but droughts, famine, pestilence, and floods are a LOT harder to ignore once they kick in to high gear.

          • Liam_McGonagle | Sep 27, 2014 at 9:31 am |

            Here’s the heartbreaking reality: they don’t want to be saved.

            Of course, that’s not “okay”, because you’re going to die because of their foolishness as well.

            But that, as me granmam used to say, is “life in the big city”.

        • In fairness, I learned more about climate chaos from deniers and skeptics than I did from the IPCC, Al Gore, or the rest of the band®.

          But since a ©lassic ™actic is to “follow the money”, what you can’t deny is that deniers and skeptics owe their ideological existence to what we now term “astroturfing”. Lawyers and ad execs run this debate; meanwhile the average yogi thinks he’s smarter than the average bear. Definitely Must-See TV®.

          Of course, we can’t trust The Expert℠ either: thorough colonization is a prerequisite to get A Seat At The Table℗.

          http://cache.wists.com/thumbnails/a/72/a7226256131a292641af446f0d0c0c9f-orig

          Cui Bono

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  2. Silent Waft | Sep 27, 2014 at 2:47 am |

    The us military is sure taking climate change seriously.

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