Interview with the Magus: Billy Brujo

Billy Brujo is the proprietor of Billy Brujo’s Botanica and host of the popular Youtube show “The Black Magick Cooking Show” on which, he teaches magick with tact, humor, focus and skill.

From Billy’s website:

“Formerly employed by the L.A.’s most high-end and renown occult shops, the master retired due to his disgust with his employer’s mob-style sales tactics and the overabundance of charlatans in the spiritual business.

However, the master has come out of retirement. Billy Brujo is back, teaching the right teaching, and offering the best custom magical objects available.”

Enjoy.

Q: What do you consider your greatest magical achievement?

A: Probably my show, It’s helped a lot of people, its made me a few dollars, and it has echoing weirdness into otherpeople’s lives that bounces back to my own in unexpected ways. Easily the biggest “magic machine” i’ve ever made.

Q: Who are your personal hero’s, those who most inspired you on your own journey?

A: Well, I have a lot of heroes actually, but if we’re talking magick, Crowley really was the first thing I read that seemed like he was actually explaining how its done, i had read other magic books before and always felt they lacked the “how.” Later after Crowley I ran into Peter Carroll and Austin Spare and the Chaos-current, at which point my “teachers” became anyone with a good idea.

Q: What importance, if any, do you place on full visual manifestation of a spirit during evocation?

A: I hardly ever do the hardcore “spirit summoning” that way anymore, however there was a time I insisted on having “full vision to my physical eyes” in a small shewstone, and STILL even then, most of the vision occurred “inside my eyelids” and not in the stone, I did see a few things however. More recently I work with my own “internal spirits” so summoning them isnt a problem because they’re always present.

Q: What was your first “oh fuck, this shit is real” moment in your personal magical practice?

A: The first in general is sort of a long story, I did a money/health spell and lost all my money and got athletes foot, which implied to me I had somehow done it wrong/offended the god invoked (Ra) so i prayed forgiveness for a long time and eventually had an amazing spiritual vision with Ra that I did not expect. This was pretty convincing. But it was a long process and not as climactic as “oh fuck”… a more “oh fuck” spell would be when I wished for money and a house, and the next morning found monopoly money and houses in the gutter (less than 9 hours later).

Q: What is one piece of magical tech you could not live without?

A: Words. Seems like a lot of magic is made out of words. If I had no words, It would be pretty hard to magic.

Q: At what age did you start practicing magic and why?

A: In retrospect, it appears I always did, even before i knew what I was doing. I had certainly been looking for a “real magick” since childhood, but I didnt run into the instructive Crowley materials until around 21, that’s what started my more intense study.

Q: What is your advice to the young aspiring magician just getting started today?

A: I’d suggest a period of serious study before attempting works. Yes, yes, its all “chaos” and “anything goes” these days, but it does help to have a strong foundation. Become an expert in a particular style, but dont lose your curiosity or free thinking. When you have built up a foundation and a magickal logic that works for you by using an established system, you can then take what you know and “graduate” to chaos and begin innovating and altering your techniques experimentally. But to start out “chaos” with no structure at all is rather dangerous.

Q: What are your current magical endeavors?

A: Oh nothing much, just trying to reinvent myself for the umpteenth time. Need a better job, need more space in a home, Need some limitless supply of resources that allows me to not need a job. The normal thing. At least my love life is okay.

Q: How do you respond to Christian evangelists knocking on your door at dinner time?

A: Well, usually those people come by in the middle of the day, and due to my current graveyardshift job, I’m usually asleep when any such nonsense happens. In the past though I just politely tell them I’m not interested. Its a peaceful laidback beach community, even the hardest zealots take no for an answer here.

Q: What effect and focus do you think magic should have upon politics and world events?

A: Magick… The Occult… that’s the word really… and lately, I’ve been seeing a lot of “occult” types forgetting “occult” means “hidden”…. yes, I know… i’m a show, i’m trying to attract attention. But I’ve been seeing a lot of witches doing these politically charged spells in public venues lately, and, it looks bad. It looks crazy. This is the reason I never show “actual rituals” on my show, I mostly discuss how things are done, theories, and “how to make ________ magic tool” but never rituals, because rituals are sacred, they are between you and your spirits, they are not for public consumption, to do so is to profane them. I also feel like “separation of church and state.” Like Jesus: “My kingdom is not of this world” and all that. However, magic is (im not gunna lie) used for achieving one’s selfish ends… thats what its for, and its usually the reason we all get into it in the start, because we want something. So also, “Do What Thou Wilt”, if some witch wants to curse a politician, that’s her business.

Julian Crane

Julian Crane

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